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    My opinion is that the job losses are primarily lazy or people expecting only high wages, being repleced by illegal workers.
    My opinion is this is why people don't take you seriously.


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    i can just imagine someone like you before the great depression telling everyone happens, it'll bounce back.

    I don't think striping men of pride, dignity, and the ability to provide for their families should be met with the response happens.
    Nice post.

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    2cents is right on this one. The foreclosures just keep downward pressure on the economy and destroys lives.

    http://inplacenews.com/90year-woman-...reclosed-home/

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    Must be a skilled labor job. Supply and demand. If they cannot bring in help, they are not paying enough!

    My opinion is that the job losses are primarily lazy or people expecting only high wages, being repleced by illegal workers.

    THERE ARE PLENTY OF JOBS OUT THERE PEOPLE! They may not pay as much as you like, but they are there!
    My opinion is this is why people don't take you seriously.


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    Yea, it is skilled labor. I can't find a decent millwright under the age of 50. Seems folks today don't want to actually work for their wage.

    50 hours a week at $25 an hour makes a decent wage, but, wages haven't kept up with cost of living. And that's a shame, to bad we're now a service economy instead of focused on folks who actually build things.

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    2cents is right on this one. The foreclosures just keep downward pressure on the economy and destroys lives.

    http://inplacenews.com/90year-woman-...reclosed-home/
    And exactly why would take out a mortgage in the 90's on a house you bought in the 70's?

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    Yea, it is skilled labor. I can't find a decent millwright under the age of 50. Seems folks today don't want to actually work for their wage.

    50 hours a week at $25 an hour makes a decent wage, but, wages haven't kept up with cost of living. And that's a shame, to bad we're now a service economy instead of focused on folks who actually build things.
    Just curious, why do you need this person to be younger than 50?
    Also, you do 10 hours/day MON-FRI, or do they need to work weekends?

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    Just curious, why do you need this person to be younger than 50?
    Also, you do 10 hours/day MON-FRI, or do they need to work weekends?
    Normally it's 10x5. I say younger than 50 so I can grow hands to make supervisor type folk out of them. Weekends are always an option and the work is generally away from home.

    Interested?

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    when bill millers is paying 9 bux an hour.. we dont have an employement shortgage.. we have a shortgage of employees!

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    Wild Cobra thinks that the stock market is THE indicator of wright or wrong economic policy

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    The American Dream: too good to be true.........

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    Normally it's 10x5. I say younger than 50 so I can grow hands to make supervisor type folk out of them. Weekends are always an option and the work is generally away from home.

    Interested?
    Oh no. I'm no millwright. I was just curious. Thanks.

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    Well, if the stock market is to be an indication, the bailout is wrong. Not right. See my new thread.

    I wouldn't let the stock market tell you too many stories. Long-term it will reflect the economy as a whole, but short-term it's unpredictable. I have absolutely ignored the performance of the stock market when coming up with an opinion on the bailout. btw, you should know by now chump is a minor league troll.

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    And yet you agree with me on WC's stock price bull .

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    i can just imagine someone like you before the great depression telling everyone happens, it'll bounce back.

    I don't think striping men of pride, dignity, and the ability to provide for their families should be met with the response happens.

    doesn't have to happen if you're not lazy.
    happened, it bounced back didn't it?

    Why should I cry like everyone else when we see what is wrong and nobody does anything about it.

    It'll come. It'll go. We reap what we sow.


    I see people buying into this that the government will save them, fools like above saying the American Dream doesn't exist while they attack the successful who have achieved it...let them entertain a great depression and see how great the America they hated actually was
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    "fools like above saying the American Dream doesn't exist while they attack the successful who have achieved it"

    the concentration of wealth and revenue by top 5% under Repug regime while since 2000 household income has declined and poverty rate has risen, while executive pay has risen to many 100s x average salary is not the American Dream, it's the kleptocratic plutocracy wet-dream come true, the wet-dream of gaming the system while sucking $$$ away from th bottom 95%.

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    Yea, it is skilled labor. I can't find a decent millwright under the age of 50. Seems folks today don't want to actually work for their wage.

    50 hours a week at $25 an hour makes a decent wage, but, wages haven't kept up with cost of living. And that's a shame, to bad we're now a service economy instead of focused on folks who actually build things.
    That $25 per hour is a wage for someone with schooling and no practical experience, right? You know a skilled milright should be making $35 per hour or more.

    Supply and demand. You need to pay more, or offer something. Take a technically proficient novice, and apprentice him/her. A historical apprentiship type skill that is OJT rather than college trained. To kep up in that area you have to have a skilled millright teach the younger ones. My skills are that of a millright. I left a six figure job for a more stable on with less chances of a layoff. Now make high fives and better benifts. I now get a pension when I retire as well as my 15% going into a 401k.

    Normally it's 10x5. I say younger than 50 so I can grow hands to make supervisor type folk out of them. Weekends are always an option and the work is generally away from home.

    Interested?
    Work away from home?

    I don't know how many jobs I have turned down because of travel neing normal. I don't like living out of a hotel, and have never seen a job that compensates enough for being away from my own goodies.

    Are you offering starting pay at $25, or is that the nominal pay?

    Wild Cobra thinks that the stock market is THE indicator of wright or wrong economic policy
    You don't know what I think, why are you acting like you do? Maybe I make you think such things, but do not place your opinion as facts of mine. That is pretty ignorant, and you are far better than that. The market is one of many indicators, the problem is reading them right. The leftists media tags any thing they want to a market upturn or downturn, and they are usually wrong. I don't know my observation as certain fact, but the presentation of the daily graphs shows the leftist spin is in error .

    I wouldn't let the stock market tell you too many stories. Long-term it will reflect the economy as a whole, but short-term it's unpredictable. I have absolutely ignored the performance of the stock market when coming up with an opinion on the bailout. btw, you should know by now chump is a minor league troll.
    There are several problems with the reading stock market, but the major factor I think is realizing that it reflects what people think the profits will be. Not what they are so much. The reasons for the profits can be good or bad. I think if we want to fix the stock markets, we need to eliminate day trading. Make any stocks bought to be required to be held for a period of time. I don't care how long so much as to making it the norm.
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    There are several problems with the reading stock market, but the major factor I think is realizing that it reflects what people think the profits will be. Not what they are so much. The reasons for the profits can be good or bad. I think if we want to fix the stock markets, we need to eliminate day trading. Make any stocks bought to be required to be held for a period of time. I don't care how long so much as to making it the norm.
    on a daily basis the market can mean a million different things.

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    "fools like above saying the American Dream doesn't exist while they attack the successful who have achieved it"

    the concentration of wealth and revenue by top 5% under Repug regime while since 2000 household income has declined and poverty rate has risen, while executive pay has risen to many 100s x average salary is not the American Dream, it's the kleptocratic plutocracy wet-dream come true, the wet-dream of gaming the system while sucking $$$ away from th bottom 95%.
    blah blah blah blah cry more noob.

    I see people making six figures who started with daily. None having to go through the corporate hamster wheel of Amerika.

    the bottom 50% who pay for taxes and still nonstop.

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