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    Even then, Im not entirely sure it will hold my attention. JFK was entertaining, never seen Nixon and this movie just smacks of self-idealized portrayal.

    It's nowhere near as good as JFK.

    Don't listen to Findog either...this movie isn't a very negative portrayal of the Bush Admin. I was expecting that... I was actually looking forward to it.


    It's much less negative on Bush than the existing perception that the crowd it is intended for have of him.

    About the only person that really gets torched in this movie beyond what the media and Democrats have already done to those in the Bush Admin...is Condoleeza Rice...

    They really make her seem ing weird in this move.

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    Basically it's like this...

    I like Brolin's Bush better than I like the real W.
    I like Cromwell's Bush 1 better than I like the real Bush 1.
    I like Dreyfuss' Cheney better than the real Cheney.
    Etc...
    I mean they are genuinely more likeable...more humanized.


    Libs will be more disappointed in this than Conservatives will...

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    About the only person that really gets torched in this movie beyond what the media and Democrats have already done to those in the Bush Admin...is Codoleeza Rice...

    They really make her seem ing weird in this move.
    Thandie Newton's delivery and facial expressions were just bizarre. Looked like something out of an SNL sketch than a serious movie.


    Don't listen to Findog either...this movie isn't a very negative portrayal of the Bush Admin.
    What ing movie did you watch? It wasn't a hatchet job designed to serve up red meat to Bush haters, but he and his Presidency still come off badly. Stone does not have an objective POV, but he tries to be balanced, and Bush and his Administration still don't fare well.

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    Thandie Newton's delivery and facial expressions were just bizarre. Looked like something out of an SNL sketch than a serious movie.




    What ing movie did you watch? It wasn't a hatchet job designed to serve up red meat to Bush haters, but he and his Presidency still come off badly. Stone does not have an objective POV, but he tries to be balanced, and Bush and his Administration still don't fare well.

    He fails because his Bush Cabinet is more likeable, more competent and more human than the actual real Bush Cabinent is....


    Bush in particular does not come off poorly in this movie....if that was it's intent it fails.

    Brolin's Bush is much cooler than the real Bush is IMO.

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    About the only person that really gets torched in this movie beyond what the media and Democrats have already done to those in the Bush Admin...is Condoleeza Rice...

    They really make her seem ing weird in this move.
    Really? How so?

    I always found her to be intriguing and I've heard that she is a freakin' genius.

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    I always found her to be intriguing and I've heard that she is a freakin' genius.
    You should read Richard Clarke's book Against All Enemies

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    Really? How so?

    I always found her to be intriguing and I've heard that she is a freakin' genius.
    It's not so much her character, but Thandie Newton. Her facial expressions and the way she delivers her lines...it's just distracting. She has this constant look on her face like somebody farted. And her line delivery is weird too.

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    Went and saw it...

    It is without a doubt Oliver Stone's worst movie.
    Now, that is a pretty bold statement Whottt!

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    It's not so much her character, but Thandie Newton. Her facial expressions and the way she delivers her lines...it's just distracting. She has this constant look on her face like somebody farted. And her line delivery is weird too.
    I get that from most of Thandie Newton's roles.

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    Basically it's like this...

    I like Brolin's Bush better than I like the real W.
    I like Cromwell's Bush 1 better than I like the real Bush 1.
    I like Dreyfuss' Cheney better than the real Cheney.
    Etc...
    I mean they are genuinely more likeable...more humanized.


    Libs will be more disappointed in this than Conservatives will...
    Well I think the scenes are mostly when Bush is with his peeps. I am sure like most peopel good or bad, Bush is pretty nice guy when he's with his people. Even Saddam Hussein would seem likeable if most scenes are when he's socializing with his peeps.

    I think Stone pretty much knows history will tell about the real Bush. But I still don't understand why he would make this movie. It's pointless to me. It does not take a genius and 2 hours of film to understand simpleton Bush

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    Were the daughters in it?

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