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So what. At this point, better to have another big like him in the Austin pipeline, than not.
Exactly - especially when he's not played a minute at all during the preseason. At this point in his early career, I don't see Ian being a good running mate with Duncan.
I don't care how many bigs are on the current roster, not one of them (besides Duncan) can adequately defend a true center like Oden, Bynum, Lopez, Gasol, Pryzbilla, Chandler or Shaq.
It's also worth mentioning again, Duncan is the only shotblocker on this squad. A deficiency that I believe will become readily apparent when opposing teams throw a taller lineup against the Spurs. We can blame it on Splitter's absence, which leaves Duncan virtually alone, without help, again for yet another season.
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So what. At this point, better to have another big like him in the Austin pipeline, than not.
Not really. Two inexperienced big men are enough for this team.
Um, when Tim Duncan retires, a full rebuild will be necessary -- at least if the Spurs and their fans (including me) have any intention of winning les. Adding young guys now isn't an effort to bridge the gap after Duncan's retirement. It's an effort to sprinkle in some youth that will aid the Spurs in being compe ive until Duncan retires.
I think it's folly to think that, absent the miracle of another once-in-a-generation #1 pick or something like it, the Spurs are just going to keep chugging out 50 win seasons and roll through to the 2nd round of the playoffs.
Pop has a tough job decision now
I'd keep Farmer
exactly what i think... kind of creepy how close it is
This is an easy decision. Hairston is a goner. What can Hairston bring that we don't already have in Udoka, Bowen, Finley and Mason. Farmer gives you something that no one else can and that's offense from the bench at the PG position. So when Farmer makes the team who gets cut when Ginobili comes back? Tolliver or Farmer?
Agree entirely. Hairston at best is going to play in the D-league for the Toros. He doesn't provide a unique talent to allocate a slot.
Who gets cut? Nobody. We can keep them all.
Do you mean who gets sent to the inactive roster? Well, they'll probably both be on the inactive roster anyways.
I guess I don't understand your point.
I believe the roster is currently at 16.
Yea, but hes saying that we'll have to cut somebody once Ginobili comes back. That makes no sense. We would have made all our cuts well in advance of Gino's return.
Oh, right. I'm flitting between similar threads.
When is the deadline for roster cuts?
I'm going to say it like this guys. What has Pop been going on about ALL of training camp???
OFFENSE. Who out of the remaining guys fits that bill? FARMER. You think Pop's going to cut him after going on about needed scoring all throughout training camp? He's the only one left that can provide what Pop wants.
It's quite simple really. I think the only way Hairston makes the team is if someone is cut. I think the Spurs are going to try and get him to sign overseas to keep his rights and bring him in next season.
I can live with that scenario. I just don't think it's wise for the Spurs to kick Hairston "to the curb" when the kid obviously had talent and potential - even if it's not fully developed. There is not another player of his type on the roster or in the pipeline.
From all the reports I've gotten I think Farmer maybe a gem in the mold of Manu. Remember the Spurs' problem last season was relying too heavily on Manu to score and bail them out down the stretch late in games. Well, when he was injured against the Lakers it hurt them not having anyone capable of providing wing scoring punch. Farmer by far seems to answer that so developing him over the year seems to be a cheap investment worth taking a chance on. We aren't drafting high nor can we hope to land someone of worth via trade so he is a cheap way to add to the team, bench scoring, youth, & athleticism.
Hairston seems redundant with what is already there, just younger, which is not bad but given the Spurs are trying to win now and only have room to groom one of the two (Hairston/Farmer) I'd choose Farmer. That's assuming Tolliver is going to stay. I would actually look for the Spurs to keep Tolliver with the notion that Bonner will be moved later this year. If they keep Tolliver then I expect Bonner to be shopped up til the trade deadline and perhaps Hairston being brought back to the Toros and learn down there. Farmer is a talent you can't afford to lose to any rivals at this stage and at this price.
roster inquiry......
Can the Spurs have 15 guys on the roster and still have 2 players signed but have them assigned to Austin all year? Or, can they only have 13 players signed if they have 2 players assigned to Austin?
The latter.
that sucks........
now that we have a DLeague....the NBA should make the 15 player limit, but also allow teams to have a maximum of 3 players per season signed and designated to the DLeague for the season.
If a team wants to call up one of the DLeague players, it must release one of the current players on the 15 man roster. The DLeague player must then remain on the NBA roster for the remainder of the season.
This way the Spurs could have kept Watkins, Green, Farmer or Hairston and merely sent them to the DLeague for the entire season to develop in their system.
That might happen when every NBA team has its own D League team. I know I sound like a broken record, but the Spurs could get rid of this problem by just taking the two players that look the best.
or by getting rid of vawn and boner (yes i spelled them wrong on purpose)
If you can come up with a way to get rid of them, I'm sure Pop's ready to read the email about it.
He wouldn't do it to Vaughn, he values him too much. Hey, my friends brother thought Farmer was a 1, but I saud he was a 2, which is he?
He is a two.
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