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    Out with the old... Obstructed_View's Avatar
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    One guy has played 1 game for the spurs, while the other has played 2 seasons and looked lost on rotations. It's not hard to work out why Mason gets a pass.
    One guy has played one game for the Spurs and got torched in the fourth quarter, while the other played rather solid defense and was saddled with 100 percent of the blame for the loss, despite the fact that his cover scored more points on Duncan and Thomas.

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    It was almost comical watching players like Finley and Barry try to defend right out of the gates.
    To Mason's credit, he's as good a defender as Finley right now. The difference is that Roger's mistakes weren't due to lack of effort.

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    Bowens D is average at best now. He needs to take a seat, he cannot stay with elite players and with Thomas on the floor the 3 spot needs to be filled with a scorer like fin on Mason.

    I think this season will hinge on if we are able to aquire a good defensive big or if Ian turns out to be that. The spurs have always predicated their D on funneling ball handlers into shot blockers. Over the last couple years we have seen our blocks pr game decline and opp fg % go up dramatically.

    If we want to win we need to scrap the 2010 plan and get help now. NJ is looking for a 3rd pg and is shopping Williams. He would be a great pick up, the salaries match/. But seeing as that is unlikely I would say go get watkins back, he moves well and can block shots which is what we need. D wins rings and ours looks very iffy right now.

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    If we want to win we need to scrap the 2010 plan and get help now. NJ is looking for a 3rd pg and is shopping Williams. He would be a great pick up, the salaries match/. But seeing as that is unlikely I would say go get watkins back, he moves well and can block shots which is what we need. D wins rings and ours looks very iffy right now.


    Williams is with the Mavericks now

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    Williams as in Sean Williams? he's still a project..very athletic(VERRRYYY athletic) but he does nothing outside of that..he's actually really bad at every other aspect..I'd rather try Ian out..

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    Williams is with the Mavericks now
    He meant Sean Williams from the Nets, not Shawne Williams that got traded from the Pacers to the Mavs.

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    Bruce Bowen, as I have said for years, is permissible on a talent-laden team where all 4 other players on the floor can score.

    His defense these days does not justify his offensive inep ude.


    Remember that 2-on-1 break he blew with Parker, because Bowen couldn't drive and it up?

    Disgusting.

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    Williams as in Sean Williams? he's still a project..very athletic(VERRRYYY athletic) but he does nothing outside of that..he's actually really bad at every other aspect..I'd rather try Ian out..
    Willaims is raw, but is a great shot blocker. Given starter mins he could average 3 bpg easy! We need a tuff shot blocker to go with Duncan, and Ian will need to be in the rotation as well.

    But Thomas and Bowen are done as players.......Bowen cant gaurd anyone and cant score, is a piss poor rebounder. Thomas looks like he has buck shot in his pockets.

    Teams will be able to pick and roll us to death at this rate!

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    Williams as in Sean Williams? he's still a project..very athletic(VERRRYYY athletic) but he does nothing outside of that..he's actually really bad at every other aspect..I'd rather try Ian out..
    Bruce Bowen, as I have said for years, is permissible on a talent-laden team where all 4 other players on the floor can score.

    His defense these days does not justify his offensive inep ude.


    Remember that 2-on-1 break he blew with Parker, because Bowen couldn't drive and it up?

    Disgusting.
    Right on man!

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    Bowen is playing piss poor so far.

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    Bowen is done.

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    0-1, 0 points, 2 rebounds in 21 minutes and he didn't stop anybody on D. So far in two games Bowen looks like a 37 year old. Spurs can't afford that production, or lack of production. Unfortunately they don't have a lot of options. Go past the big three and 4-15 Spurs may have the least talent of any team in the league.

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    he is a bit exposed with manu out offensively. his bad games should be taken with a bit of salt, anyway. he's held to a very high standard.

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    0-1, 0 points, 2 rebounds in 21 minutes and he didn't stop anybody on D. So far in two games Bowen looks like a 37 year old. Spurs can't afford that production, or lack of production. Unfortunately they don't have a lot of options. Go past the big three and 4-15 Spurs may have the least talent of any team in the league.
    stop being an attention . l m a o

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    Just cut Bowen now! 0 pts 2 rb...thats it in 41 mins! Oh and the guys he is defending are scoring 24+........Dump him! Let him go do yoga videos!!

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    Bowen is making more money that Roger Mason, that's kind of a hard pill to swallow for those who think Tim and Tony don't have enough help.

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    Bruce looked like a normal player on defense on the first two games. He wasn't bad but he also wasn't Bruce. He's offense game is bad so we can only have him on the court if he's playing great D and that not happed so far

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    No quick point guards tonight. Going against Roy, Bowen looked a step slow.

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    No quick point guards tonight. Going against Roy, Bowen looked a step slow.
    Bowen WAS a step slow in this game, as well as the opener versus the Suns. At times, I think Pop overvalues Bowen at this late stage of his career by putting him Nash. Then Pop benches him in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

    It's really hard to justify having him on the court, because, like Finley, if he's not contributing his area of speciality, he becomes a hinderance.

    Bowen looks like the usual physical freak that we become accustomed to seeing, but he's 37 freaking years old. His were going to decline at some point. Now could be that time. Remember it happened rather suddenly to Robert Horry last year.

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