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The episode in on ESPN.com if anyone wants to watch it.
From what I hear, Oscar is already 145 and Manny is at 151.
Don't know if anyone has been keeping up with the HBO 24/7 inside look but it's been excellent so far. Two crazy ass hard training camps, these guys are really pushing it for this fight and will be ready for battle..
The episode in on ESPN.com if anyone wants to watch it.
From what I hear, Oscar is already 145 and Manny is at 151.
The episode in on ESPN.com if anyone wants to watch it.
From what I hear, Oscar is already 145 and Manny is at 151.
Oscar was at 155 before sparring on the last show, 147 after he was done. This is the heaviest Manny has ever fought at and given his problems with Marquez and Oscar's size edge, i really like Oscar in this fight..
This should be an excellent fight. I can see it go either way so I won't be betting on this fight. Should be a very good one.
I watched it with my Puerto Rican friend and we had a bet going on that fight. He wouldn't take my money after the fight was over.
as much as I hated the ending of the Trinidad fight, I thought it was a good decision. Oscar was getting hit very hard, though infrequently, to scare him and put him on the run. Maybe with Olympic scoring you give the fight to Oscar, but professionally I thought Oscar did enough to lose.
However, I also thought Chavez knocked out Meldrick Taylor with 2 seconds left in the fight.
The Trinidad fight is the one that Oscar even says he "Wishes he could get back more than anything" Dude gave the judges every chance to steal that from him, the way he ran the last 3 rds. Not like the 2nd fight with Mosley where he fought his heart out for 12 rds, and 3 blind ass judges still took it from him..
Pacquiao vs Dela Hoya Dream Match update
By Ronnie Nathanielsz
PhilBoxing.com
Thu, 04 Dec 2008
The fading, one-time Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera has bad-mouthed the “Dream Match” between Filipino ring icon Manny Pacquiao and “The Golden Boy” Oscar De La Hoya which takes place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on Sunday morning, Manila Time.
Barrera who left Golden Boy Promotions and signed up with Don King was quoted as saying the fight is “a circus”. Barrera went on to say the fight “is something that will make us lose a lot of credibility as boxers, with these kind of things.”
Barrera made the comments in a conversation with Nicaraguan journalist Pablo Freights according to Mark Vester of Boxing Scene.
Barrera was quoted as saying De La Hoya “should win in two rounds. The fight is a circus. Jose Sulaiman (WBC president) said the same thing. That the fight was a circus. Their pockets are the ones that are going to win. They are the ones who are going to leave full and satisfied because the boxing family will not get a lot from this farce.”
Based on his mean remarks it seems that the metal plate in Barrera’s brain may have been dislodged by the mauling he received at the hands of Pacquiao() in their first fight or the merciful beating he took in the rematch.
And talking of a circus we wonder what his farcical fight against Sammy Ventura in Chengdu, China can be branded when the Chinese people were virtually swindled by Don King into paying to watch a fight card of lumbering, incompetent heavyweights and a collection of miscellaneous individuals posing as fighters.
Ventura who suffered his eighth stoppage inside four rounds in his last eleven fights fell to 25-20 with 20 knockouts which respected TV commentator Col. Bob Sheridan described as more of a sparring session in which Barrera was pulling his punches. How Don King was able to get the WBO to rank Barrera No.1 is in itself a mystery and part of the circus in boxing.
Besides, while it is true that Don Jose Sulaiman criticized the fight bitterly, he himself told us in an overseas telephone conversation that he was flying to Las Vegas to watch the fight because both De La Hoya and Pacquiao were his “heroes.”
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height-wise he's the underdog, 2 rds? but poor Manny
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The thing about the fight, is in my view, Manny has no chance whatsoever to KO Oscar. His chin is too damn good. Only one fighter ever KO'd him and that was Hopkins, at Middleweight and it was a body shot that did it. He's too small to really hurt him, i feel. He's got to win a decision and he only will if Oscar gasses late in the fight..
I'll be rooting for Manny in this one. I always felt De La Hoya was very overrated and made a living beating a bunch of nobodies. I don't think it will be an easy fight for Manny, although he is very good and very fast, the height and the reach always makes a difference. Add to that the weight, I think it will be hard.
he got robbed in the Mosley fight.
Oscar wants NO part of Margarito!
Oscar never beat Mosley, what the are you talking about?...
Yes he did, the 2nd fight he won it fairly easy. I had it 8 rds to 4. Shane didn't get going until like the 8th RD. Oscar landed way more punches, was far more accurate and there were no Knockdowns in the fight. Shane's own father and trainer told him heading into RD 12, he needed a KO to win. The judges robbed Oscar of one of the best performances of his career..
I liked Oscar when he was an American. Go Manny!
You were saying?Manny has no chance whatsoever to KO Oscar
SPEED KILLS!!!
Well he didn't KO him in the conventional fashion but yes speed does kill BUT the weight loss killed Oscar about as bad as it possibly could. That shocked me more than anything. He took the punches fine, just took way too many of them.. Has Oscar ever looked that damn slow in a fight?? That was great Manny and Lousy Oscar..
he didnt KO him, but i have no doubt after seeing what happened to Oscar in the 8th that Oscar was gonna go down.
Total Domination. FILIPINO FILIPINO!!!
Certainly a lot more ammo for the Oscar is overrated argument.
Mabuhay ang Pilipinas!
PACMAN!
For Oscar sadly this is true. However he really has 2 super-fights that he won that got taken from him, the Trinidad fight and the 2nd fight with Mosley. So people, i feel somwhat unfairly give him about too many losses in big fights..
One sided fight...
Speed did it for Manny.His combo + lateral movement was awesome.
de la chocha. He was good... a long time ago.
he is finished and should have retired a long time ago, he just wants the paychecks. that is BS IMO. He wasted a Pacman fight when Pacman could have fought someone at least somewhat compe ive.
I'd rather loca choca
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