Jones Jr. VS. Calzaghe

[dbreiden83080]

200 to 300 ppv buys is still very good coin for boxers.

Well Pavlick and Hopkins are suppsoed to be stars, so 200 thousand buys for that fight is downright terrible. Manny and Oscar will be money in the bank though..

[2centsworth]

Well Pavlick and Hopkins are suppsoed to be stars, so 200 thousand buys for that fight is downright terrible. Manny and Oscar will be money in the bank though..

$12 mil while being the only "paid" fighters. Not great, but a mil each is still good money.

[Heath Ledger]

Im watching this fight for freee.....

[BacktoBasics]

There is no shortage of big names in their prime capable of pulling in big PPV numbers. I honestly hope it sours so we can get boxing back on ing TV again. Unless you pay for premium movie channels or PPV you essentially can't watch boxing outside of Friday Night Fights and the occasion cable bout.

[2centsworth]

There is no shortage of big names in their prime capable of pulling in big PPV numbers. I honestly hope it sours so we can get boxing back on ing TV again. Unless you pay for premium movie channels or PPV you essentially can't watch boxing outside of Friday Night Fights and the occasion cable bout.

boxing fans require HBO and Showtime. It has been that way since early 80s

[I. Hustle]

boxing fans require HBO and Showtime. It has been that way since early 80s

It's the only reason I have those F'n channels. Then I got hooked on Dexter anf True Blood

[BacktoBasics]

It's the only reason I have those F'n channels. Then I got hooked on Dexter anf True Blood

I love both those shows.

[mexicanjunior]

boxing fans require HBO and Showtime. It has been that way since early 80s

It was the only reason I had those channels until I got into some of their original programming (like Curb Your Enthusiasm, Life and Times of Tim, True Blood, etc...).

[SAtoDallas]

Boxing is the reason I ordered Showtime.

[mystargtr34]

Lets go Calzaghe.

[mystargtr34]

Damn i love Calzaghe

[MrChug]

Joe Calzaghe will go down as the most brilliant "figure it out" fighter of all time. He figured out the "cagey" Hopkins as dirty as he fights, and will slowly figure out the "slick, super" Roy Jones.

[dbreiden83080]

Joe Calzaghe will go down as the most brilliant "figure it out" fighter of all time. He figured out the "cagey" Hopkins as dirty as he fights, and will slowly figure out the "slick, super" Roy Jones.

Uh he is beating up 40 year old Roy Jones here, his legacy is maybe half what Jone's is, lets not go nuts. Ali got his ass kicked late in his career by guys he would have murdered in his prime.. Roy is much better all time than Joe, this fight won't change that..

It's easy to figure someone out when their skills are half what they used to be..

[MrChug]

Uh he is beating up 40 year old Roy Jones here, his legacy is maybe half what Jone's is, lets not go nuts. Ali got his ass kicked late in his career by guys he would have murdered in his prime.. Roy is much better all time than Joe, this fight won't change that..

It's easy to figure someone out when their skills are half what they used to be..

Yes...well said, except that Jones' legacy will clearly state that he didn't fight anyone worth a turtle until it was too late. Roy Jones and everything he stands for.






...wait STOOD for.

[MrChug]

Uh he is beating up 40 year old Roy Jones here, his legacy is maybe half what Jone's is, lets not go nuts. Ali got his ass kicked late in his career by guys he would have murdered in his prime.. Roy is much better all time than Joe, this fight won't change that..

It's easy to figure someone out when their skills are half what they used to be..

...and Calzaghe is only 3 years younger and just made Jonesie look 10 years older...give it up-give the Italiano/Welshman some props and just admit that Jones is a .

[dbreiden83080]

Yes...well said, except that Jones' legacy will clearly state that he didn't fight anyone worth a turtle until it was too late. Roy Jones and everything he stands for.






...wait STOOD for.

And Joe spent his whole career hiding in his homeland, refusing fights in the U.S. and taking no chances. Roy bulked up and won the Heavyweight le.. He also destroyed Hopkins when Bernard was young and in his prime.. Joe won a split decision against a 43 year old Hopkins.. Roy was the best combo of speed and skill almost anyone had ever seen. This is why i hate watching boxing anymore. The former legends are fighting WAY past their prime and losing fights in their hey-day they never would have..

[dallaskd]

more ppv buys......this or couture vs lesnar next saturday?

[dbreiden83080]

...and Calzaghe is only 3 years younger and just made Jonesie look 10 years older...give it up-give the Italiano/Welshman some props and just admit that Jones is a .

That means nothing at all

Age is a number, the level of decline is a different story..

I get the sense you have been watching boxing for about 5 minutes..

Joe is still close to his prime, Roy is so far past his prime it is insane... Roy is a better all time fighter than Joe, like i said this is like Ali losing to Larry Holmes, when he was old and done...

[dbreiden83080]

more ppv buys......this or couture vs lesnar next saturday?

For sure UFC 91, Manny and Oscar will top it though..

[dbreiden83080]

Actually, boxers have always fought past their primes.

Yes which is why proper perspective needs to take effect here.. A legacy is not measured by what you do at the end of your hall of fame career way past your pime..

if you know anything about boxing, you would know that Joe would have given Roy a tough fight even in Roys prime.

What edges does he have on Roy in his prime?? Hand speed? Nope. Power? No, Was he a better athlete? No. Did he fight better compe on? No.. I don't see your point at all..

Name one boxer Roy fought in his prime that has the skills of Joe. There are none. Hopkins and Toney are great fighters, but not on the level of Joe.

I already did, Hopkins is an all time legend. Hopkins legacy is so far ahead of Joe it is a God-Damn Joke.. Roy kicked his ass when he was young.. Joe beat Hopkins in a razor close fight when he was 43 years old.. The same Hopkins that got beat twice by Taylor, who was exposed by Pavlick.. Toney another fighter Roy dessimated in his prime would have given Joe fits. He was so hard to hit and elusive it was insane. Awkward style with great combinations.. Could Joe have bulked up to Heavyweight and destroyed John Ruiz?? Bringing Roy down a notch at this point in his career is just not fair the way i see it..

[Whisky Dog]

Great fight by Calzaghe, I really like this fighter and am happy for him to have this success. That said, this isn't any kind of landmark victory because of when it happened. I can't say that one guy would have beaten the other if they were in their primes, and that's because this fight didnt take place 8 to 10 years ago like it should have. Its still a good win, but not anything to proclaim to be the best about. Joe missed that chance and will never get it again.

[Yogurt210]

deng my prediction was right, until after the first round, o well...time for jones to retire.

[dbreiden83080]

Side note: After Jones got knocked out by Tarver, I was in Vegas and he and a buddy walked up and started shooting craps at the table I was at, and he seemed like a real cool guy, so I asked him... "hey man, you going to get your le back," he laughed and said, "you now it, and you can bet on it too," so I did, and lost a nice chunk of change.

Wait you bet on Roy for the 3rd fight with Tarver after he got smoked by Johnson, why?? He had shown himself to be a shot fighter by that point. Jones would have murdered Tarver so bad in his prime, nobody would even know who the Tarver is. Whatever name he has, he got thanks to beating a shot Roy Jones twice..

[MrChug]

That means nothing at all

Age is a number, the level of decline is a different story..

I get the sense you have been watching boxing for about 5 minutes..

Joe is still close to his prime, Roy is so far past his prime it is insane... Roy is a better all time fighter than Joe, like i said this is like Ali losing to Larry Holmes, when he was old and done...

I'm considered an historian, so you can suck my balls and swallow the hair after that stupid comment. If you think a quick knockout, showboating, and ducking the big fights while he was in his "prime" makes him a legend...well you know nothing about boxing. Let's take a gander at even CONTEMPORARY fighters who will go down as far as greater fighters than rj:

Calzaghe
Oscar
Pacqiao
Erik Morales
Bernard Hopkins

Calzaghe has been doing this since '93 and has never lost...just FYI.

[dbreiden83080]

I'm considered an historian, so you can suck my balls and swallow the hair after that stupid comment.
Oscar
Pacqiao
Erik Morales
Bernard Hopkins

Erik Morales, is going down with a better legend, oh man, my sides hurt from that , how about Winky Wright while your at it.. Jermaine Taylor, yeah he is better than Roy, not too mention, Zab Judah and Tarver, they all are ahead of Roy right, Mr -bag, uh i mean Historian, LOL what a joke... You truly have been watching boxing for 5 min if you think Erik Morales is on anyones top list of fighters pd for pd ahead of Roy, i mean on a stick that is funny... You realize everyone on that list Roy either beat or would be dessimated in a fight with Roy and none of them fought and beat better fighters. Oscar lost every Superfight he ever had practically.. you are badly underrating everything about Roy..