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    It takes other people hitting thier damn shots for TP to get his assists. Everyone else is pretty much sucking. Its funny that Spurs start off real slow and its parker's fault. It's not because of injury to Manu, its not becasue the Spurs couldn't get some decent players in the off season, it's not because Bowen is losing a step, its all parker. Where were these threads when he was carrying us to victories in the playoffs or winning Finals MVP? It's just Spurs fans doing thier favorite past time- hatin on Tony.
    so wheres the excuses for the past years when the team was winning championships and shooting high percentages, yet parker was still averaging just 5-6 assists? (with about 3-4 every game coming off of easy dishes to tim duncan). just BY CHANCE everyone would start missing when he would pass it to them for an open look?

    its not about the team hitting their shots in this case. plain and simple, Tony Parker is not a passer, distributer, or whatever you want to call it. he is a scorer.

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    oh please don't confuse some spur fans with your logical analysis. Its all Tony's fault.
    yeah, logic means that since he averaged 8 apg for two games, suddenly he is an elite distributer.

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    last night parker was top 5 in the league in assists @ 8 apg, while still averaging 28 points.
    oh yeah, fantastic analysis... two games into the season

    does the spurs offense really call for a true pg?
    it really doesnt. thats why they have won 3 les with parker. its more isolation and rotation based.

    how often are parker's assist numbers skewed because:

    1. we can't hit shots or
    2. the spurs ball movement around the perimeter is flowing
    so for basically every year he has been in the league, every time he was passing to open teammates, they would suddenly miss shots? or that someone would always steal his assists by making the extra pass? re ed take. it may up someones stat line for one game, but not over the course of an entire season, especially for a team that has won 3 les and always shot a high percentage.

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    Tony is definitely NOT a true, classic PG...he doesn't have the natural passing gifts of a Nash, Kidd or Paul. He's more like AI, a scorer and creator. But all that being said, he's not a BAD passer and he's not a ball-hog like Marbury...He is what he is, and he's great. He's invaluable. And he is definitely NOT a reason why the Spurs are 0-3. The reasons we're 0-3 are obvious. No Manu, short on bigs, and aging roster (Bowen, Finley and Thomas).


    Parker is not the problem at all. He absolutely is not a passer, but hes not the problem.

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    Great thread

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    He is great, fast, fearless. Unvaluable.

    But he is not a PG. A PG's job is to get his team involved, run the offense for the TEAM. he has not done that for the 3rd game in a row.

    All he does is penetrate, shot his midrange, and sometimes kick it out to the 3 pt shooter when he has no other choice. that is not a PG!!!!

    Hill came in last night and ran the team as a PG should.

    With Manu out, shouldn't we have a PG that tries to get the team involved??????

    come on TP, play as a traditional PG more. this is BS
    Im sick tired for the lasck of respect for Parker here. All Tony Parker has done for the Spurs is win and carried them numerous times. He's a finals MVP and he still doesn't even get respect he deserves. We have won 3 championships with Tony as our Point guard and now your not happy. Say we did get a pass first PG in Kidd a few years back, you wouldn't have even opened a bottle of champaigne and celebrated .

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    Do I have to post the reasons why Parker has lowish assist totals yet again?

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    Where was all of this when the Spurs were winning?

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    Do I have to post the reasons why Parker has lowish assist totals yet again?
    Its the usually idoits or newbies. I believe many of us have stated the reasons over and over. It will never end.

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    so wheres the excuses for the past years when the team was winning championships and shooting high percentages, yet parker was still averaging just 5-6 assists? (with about 3-4 every game coming off of easy dishes to tim duncan). just BY CHANCE everyone would start missing when he would pass it to them for an open look?

    its not about the team hitting their shots in this case. plain and simple, Tony Parker is not a passer, distributer, or whatever you want to call it. he is a scorer.
    how many times has it been debated on here, that the Spurs system is just not based on that. Fine if TP is not a "true pg" then so be it, but he has never been apart of a run and gun team. Spurs have always been halfcourt minded.

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    oh yeah, fantastic analysis... two games into the season
    well i'm responding to a reactionary thread that is calling out parker's current play after three games, so i'm just going off what's current. i guess i can post up like some preseason stats or maybe some stats from the french nt, or maybe some numbers from like 04, maybe find some high school stats for you... but that wouldn't really mesh with the essence of the thread imo

    oh and at the time of this post, parkers got 30 and 7.

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    oh and at the time of this post, parkers got 30 and 7.
    he's just telling everybody here at ST to STFU!

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    oh and at the time of this post, parkers got 30 and 7.
    Only 30 and 7? Trade his ass!

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    Oh noes, 32/7/5 with 1 turnover on 934FG%.

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    Sure, he is shoot-first and not a playmaker.

    But he has 10 dimes so far tonight.

    That's a step in the right direction.

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    He Had 11 In Another Game This Season
    Double Digigts In 2 Out Of 4 Games With Spurs O Is Good
    Especially Without Manu

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    holy ! I was right, he ain't no PG. He is a mother ing DEMON!!!!

    what a beast. I don't care if he doesn't pass to anyone if he plays like this.

    Delete this thread :p

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    This thread got curbstomped.

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    55 points?

    just say no es

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    funniest thread ever now

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    top so we can lol

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    what part about TP is not like a point guard?
    he's a guard that scored a of a lot of points tonight.

    sounds like a point guard to me.

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    10 assists says he is.

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    Yeah he's a ing superstar. Superstar >>> PG.

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    he's a monster.

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