Loren Woods team have not won any games all year.
You are motherfuking moron and mother ing piece of . If you cannot figure out team Woods play on has won not any games all year and you still believe he is good player. He is even say by some to be worst American player in all of Euroleague you stupid fool.
Of course Splitter is a very good player but you think Woods is? You must have been drop on head when you was little.
Hey Spurs Brazil.
What do the Brazilian fans think of Splitter not coming to the NBA?
There was a Tau game on ESPN international here in Australia recently and I couldn't bring myself to watch even a minute of it since I was mad at Splitter for not coming over.
I shouldn't really be blaming him for not coming over. He did what he thought was best. Most people would do the same thing. I don't know if I would, but I've never really been in that situation so I can't comment on it.
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If T park was put in the exact same situation, then he would become his definition of s .
Tpark's full of anyway; Splitter never gave his word that he was coming to the Spurs.
wtf?
In the press conference he said that he can't wait till the end of Euro season to be in the NBA.
If that's not giving a word I don't know what is.
That was before (and probably why) he was proposed a big contract by Tau.
like so many facts some Spurs fans ignore when bashing Splitter, they also ignore the facts about his history.
hey, Tau brought him to Spain when he was 15! they did absolutely everything possible for his development. after 8 years this team and the city of Vitoria have become his 2nd home.
Spurs fans hate Tau, but fact is that Tau is pretty much to same kind of organisation with the same kind of style, like the Spurs are. as a small market team they also had to be.
you think it's all about the money? it's also about loyalty. yes, that thing so many think is something only a player who commits himself to the Spurs can be credited for.
btw. show me where Splitter "promised" ("gave his word" etc) to join the Spurs as so many here claim? all I know (and I read dozens of interviews, even saw some on TV) is that he always said this typical "diplomatic" answers, like that he would love to play in the NBA and for the Spurs one day, etc.
we should see it as it is. Splitter would have never ever slipped to the end of 1st round, if there wouldn't have been so many questions when (if ever) he will come to the NBA. Spurs took the risk and lost. I'm as unhappy about it as any fan, but we should forget about Tiago. sometimes things go wrong, live with it.
the best thing for us could be, that ´we get something out of his rights. best chance could be Miami. they could also gamble on him, considering their time will come in 2 years from now (I'm pretty sure Wade will re sign and Boozer will join them 2009). maybe till then the CBA will have reacted to the rookie scale situation and allows to pay more money for international players like Tiago. or Tiago agrees to play for them, just because Miami is a huge market compared to SA and because south Florida has the largest community of Brazilian people in the states. just a guess.
(my pipe dream would be that Spurs can talk the Heat into a salary dump trade for Haslem. if the want to sign Boozer 2009, they need to clear some cap space, to be able to offer Boozer a max contract. as usualy, Spurs can't offer much, but a package including the Splitter rights will look better than one without.)
Then you don't know what "giving your word" is. According to the above, all he said was he can't wait to come to the NBA. Show me where he said "I promise I'll come to the Spurs next year no matter what, even if it means taking a lot less money to do so". So far nobody has done anything other than act like he's a deceiver of the highest order for simply taking more money (a ing boatload more) to stay where he was. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if if Pop didn't actually tell him he'd be a fool not to take the bigger contract.
I guess it's up to the player. Put Nocioni as an example, who had a 2 million euros buyout clause. He signed a 3-year deal with Chicago, for around 9 million, 2.5 the first year. He paid the buyout with his own money, so he virtually played his first year in Chicago for free. And he was undrafted, unproven, slightly small for a SF and plays in a position loaded with talent in the NBA. He had faith in himself, and wanted to play with the best.
Now, Splitter is almost 7 feet, with a talent unusual for his size, in a time when centers in the NBA are lacking. He had a chance to play, learn and improve next to Duncan, as a sure starter. He was destined to be a starting center in the NBA. To me, is a no brainer he could get loaded contracts in the future, specially considering his age.
So, it looks like either Splitter really-really needed the money right now, in expense of improving his game, or this kid doesn't have faith in himself, and believes he's not NBA material.
Yes because every player gives sucha promise
Boozer is a prime example
OK dumb question, why do Euro players make themselves available for the draft knowing they may not come. Is it to scare the team they are with into giving them more cash?
Or is it the teams fault for picking them and then not bringing them over that year?
It's a play of oppurtunieties.
Everybody care about their business, something better on the table? Ok I take it, sorry spurs
I think all players are automatically eligible for the draft at the age of 22.
You think well
Sure starter ? With Pop ?
I shouldn't have put the word "sure" for sure.
I meant that the center position is not very compe ive in the Spurs roster. And the possibilities for Splitter to eventually become the starting center were very high. Don't you agree with that?
I don't know. Not at the begining of the season anyway.
This was a special first month and with the rebounding problem maybe Pop would have tried even if Tiago's not a pure rebounder.
I also remember Splitter worrying about Pop's reluctance to play rookie a lot.
now if only RC would send him an email about his rebounding...
Agreed. I can read spanish as well.
Since I dont cuss, not ever. Ill have to agree 100% with Bruno. And Ill add this is what I said when Manu decided to play hurt after told not to by his Coach Pop. There is no room for any other team but the spurs for me. Once they play for someone else. I hateum.
As of late they have been making bonehead moves with signing and trading Bigs. So it wouldnt surprise me. For whatever reason, the Spurs FO and there love for overseas players is not the way of the world anymore. It worked well while it lasted. And who knows maybe, just maybe there is one more year left. And I dont think this one is it.
Like I said. Your boy is playing in a disney world league. He wouldnt last in the real world. American Basketball is the best all over the world. The Spurs drained the rest of the world of its best. Now the rest of America does the same. And wheres your boy? Still in disney world. If he was good, he would already be here playing in land of red white and blue.
One of the top five european basketball players ever, never played in the NBA.
He wouldn't play in a country that bombed his own country.
Another of the top five did bother playing a few games, but couldnt' outlast the boredom of the endless, irrelevant, meaningless regular seasons "games". On top, he was picked by a looser, and he simply wouldn't play for less than a serious contender.
No money in the world could have bought him back.
yea but the time to win w/ the best power forward to ever play the game is NOW...not in four years when Tim is over the hill.
People here doesn't know the whole thing so they think it was a smart decision to take 2 years and a good contract in Europe before go the the NBA. He's still young and they say he'll arrive in NBA a little younger than Scola.
But I think he wasn't far with Pop and R.C. When he was draft he said he had no doubt he'd come to San Antonio in 08. He knew about the rookie scale and even with that he said he would come. I don't know if the Spurs would draft him if he said he was undecided
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