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    BOOMER SOONER!!!!!!! pkbpkb81's Avatar
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    Saying Chokelahoma will hold a team to 21 is like saying the Detroit Lions will win a game this season.
    HEY THERE ASS LICKER OU DID HOLD TECK TO LESS POINTS THEN THOSES S FROM AUSTIN DID. HAVE FUN AT THE SUGAR BOWL OR WHAT EVER MEANINGLESS GAME COLT AND THE GIRLS PLAY IN.

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    BOOMER SOONER!!!!!!! pkbpkb81's Avatar
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    Karma is the outcome of the Big 12 South tiebreaker being a slap in the face to anyone who's ever played the game of football. Would you start coaching kids and tell them it's okay to lose games because if you run up the score against everyone you play, "scoring more points" will carry more weight than "lost head-to-head"?

    the BCS.
    SO TECH SHOULD GO?

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    I wouldn't be surprised if this game is close. ou will be preparing for the pseudo-bowl championship while mizzou has nothing to lose. the game is in kansas city, too, and we all know ou is nothing on the road.
    OU WAS THE ONLY TEAM IN THE BIG 12 TO BEAT A TOP 15 TEAM ON THE ROAD UT LOST THERE ONLY BIG ROAD GAME

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    HEY THERE ASS LICKER OU DID HOLD TECK TO LESS POINTS THEN THOSES S FROM AUSTIN DID. HAVE FUN AT THE SUGAR BOWL OR WHAT EVER MEANINGLESS GAME COLT AND THE GIRLS PLAY IN.

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    Head To Head Is Out When It Is A 3 Way Tie With Each Team Loseing To The Other As Much As Ut Fan Wants Everone Rembers You Lost To Teck Whick Looks Really Bad After Baylor Heald Them To 35 And Almost Beat Them.

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    BOOMER SOONER!!!!!!! pkbpkb81's Avatar
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    As For The Ut Fans Hopeing For Sam To Get Hurt Thats Low Class. All The Real Ut Fans I Know Are Better Then That.

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    Head To Head Is Out When It Is A 3 Way Tie With Each Team Loseing To The Other As Much As Ut Fan Wants Everone Rembers You Lost To Teck Whick Looks Really Bad After Baylor Heald Them To 35 And Almost Beat Them.
    As For The Ut Fans Hopeing For Sam To Get Hurt Thats Low Class. All The Real Ut Fans I Know Are Better Then That.
    You went to OU, didn't you?

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    You went to OU, didn't you?
    snap

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    Ina world of hype, we win IronMexican's Avatar
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    I hate how discredited head to head wins are now. Remember last year when Kentucky beat LSU, LSU was still above them? It really annoys me.

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    HEY THERE ASS LICKER OU DID HOLD TECK TO LESS POINTS THEN THOSES S FROM AUSTIN DID. HAVE FUN AT THE SUGAR BOWL OR WHAT EVER MEANINGLESS GAME COLT AND THE GIRLS PLAY IN.
    Teck? Thoses? You must be from Oklahoma.

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    Hey pkbpkb81, here's a to do list for ya:

    1. Fix capslock key
    2. Graduate high school
    3. Kill yourself

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    If there is such a thing as karma I hope it comes back to bite OU in the ass on Saturday. I agree with those when they stated they felt dirty rooting for OU. I still can't that stench out of my mind.

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    Hey pkbpkb81, here's a to do list for ya:

    1. Fix capslock key
    2. Graduate high school
    3. Kill yourself
    HEY JT GO HOME AND LOOK AT YOUR NASTY FAT BEVO LOOKING WIFE AND KILL HER!!!!!!!!!!!

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    For all the short horns fans that keep crying it was a 3 way tie, you cant forget that ttu beat you there were 3 teams that deserved to go to the big 12 champship game and no matter what two were getting ed. Mack knew the tie breaker rules before the season started and didn’t say anything about it till his team got on the short end on the stick.


    So for the last time stop you crying and get over it, expect you jt I hope this ruins your life you little , don’t forget to shot that ugly wife of yours.

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    that dosent change the fact that it is a 3 way tie you cant say head to head counts in the ou texas game and not the ttu texas game

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    So for the last time stop you crying and get over it, expect you jt I hope this ruins your life you little , don’t forget to shot that ugly wife of yours.
    I'll shoot my nonexistent wife only if you promise to shoot whoever taught you how to read and write.

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    Will the Big 12 le game produce more black magic?
    by Andy Staples

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....12/index.html


    "You could have two great teams, and all of a sudden, one is out of the national championship picture."
    -- Nebraska coach Tom Osborne discussing the inaugural Big 12 championship game in July 1996

    Osborne had no idea when he made that statement during the first Big 12 media days that he had foretold his team's own future. Five months later, on the carpet of the TWA Dome in St. Louis, Texas quarterback James Brown rolled left, and the Cornhuskers' dreams of a third consecutive national le collapsed. Little did anyone know that Brown and the Longhorns didn't only pull of an upset. They also created a new tradition.

    Since the conferences and bowls formed the Alliance -- the precursor to the BCS -- in 1996, no single event has wreaked more havoc on the national le picture than the Big 12 championship game. In eight of 12 previous Big 12 championship games, the higher ranked team had a chance to advance to the national le game. The higher ranked teams went 3-5 and four of those teams lost their chance to play for the crystal football (Oklahoma still went to the BCS le game in 2003 despite getting blown out by Kansas State).

    "There have been some strange goings-on," BCS analyst Jerry Palm said.

    All that history can't make Oklahoma players and coaches too comfortable as they prepare to face Missouri on Saturday at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City, Mo. If the Sooners win, they're a virtual lock for the BCS le game. That could be bad news given the history of the game.

    Even worse, the most recent loser is Missouri, which entered the 2007 Big 12 game ranked No. 1 in the BCS. The Sooners beat the Tigers, 38-17, and Missouri wound up in the Cotton Bowl. Missouri quarterback Chase Daniel said the Tigers won't seek revenge Saturday -- only a berth in the Fiesta Bowl. "Don't worry about past games," Daniel said this week. "None of that means anything right now."

    Still, Daniel, who grew up in Southlake, Texas, dreaming of wearing the burnt orange of Texas, could become a cult hero at his former favorite school if he leads the Tigers to an upset. A Missouri win, Palm said, probably would vault Texas into a BCS le game matchup against the SEC champ. The Longhorns beat the Sooners, 45-35, at the Cotton Bowl on Oct. 11, but the Big 12's three-way tiebreaking procedure sent Oklahoma to Kansas City instead of Texas or Texas Tech.

    A Missouri win would make Daniel as popular in Austin as former Longhorns quarterback Brown -- nicknamed "The Godfather of Roll" -- is in Gainesville, Fla. Brown's heroics in 1996 against heavily favored Nebraska allowed Florida, which lost to Florida State in the 1996 regular-season finale, to face the Seminoles again for the national le in the Sugar Bowl. Up three with 2:40 remaining and unsure his defense could stop the Cornhuskers' option, Texas coach John Mackovic called "Roll Left" -- a goal-line play designed to allow Brown to run or throw -- on fourth-and-inches from the Texas 28-yard line.

    "Before the game, Coach Mackovic said it would come down to one play," said Brown, now the quarterbacks coach for the nascent football program at Lamar University in his hometown of Beaumont, Texas.

    Brown faked a handoff to Priest Holmes, and tailback Ricky Williams knocked down a Nebraska defender to open a running lane for Brown. But instead of running, Brown hit a wide-open Derek Lewis for a 61-yard gain. "I looked up and he was just so wide open," Brown said. "I just threw him a nice, easy pass."

    The play set the tone for future Big 12 le game fireworks, proved an old Southwest Conference school could hang with an ex-Big 8 power and made Brown a hero in the Sunshine State. The following week, he read about Floridians' gra ude in the newspaper. Later, several Florida players were spotted sporting Texas hats while exiting the team plane in New Orleans.

    If Daniel can pull the upset, he won't have to read about the gra ude of Texas fans in the paper. He can just go home for the holidays and bask in the adulation. But beating these Sooners, who have averaged 59.5 points since the loss to Texas, won't be easy. Of course, it's not the first time a heavily favored Oklahoma team has ridden a wave of lopsided victories into Arrowhead.

    The 2003 Oklahoma team entered its Big 12 le game matchup with Kansas State hoping to join the 1999 Florida State team as the only wire-to-wire No. 1s in the modern era. Those Sooners had won their games by an average of 38.3 points, and they seemed poised to steamroll a Wildcats team that had dropped consecutive early-season games against Marshall, Texas and Oklahoma State.

    "That's all that was talked about," former Kansas State linebacker Josh Buhl said this week, "how good they were, how they were one of the best teams ever."

    Buhl said the Wildcats found a flaw in the Sooners' offense while watching film that week. If Kansas State committed to blitzing soon-to-be Heisman Trophy winner Jason White nearly every down, White would wilt. That seemed unlikely when Oklahoma's Kejuan Jones ripped off a 42-yard touchdown run less than three minutes into the game to give the Sooners a 7-0 lead. But the Wildcats stuffed the Sooners on their next possession. Then they did it again. With the defense stoning Oklahoma, Kansas State quarterback Ell Roberson led the Wildcats to the end zone on three of four possessions.

    For Buhl, his lasting memory is sprinting down the field in the fourth quarter alongside fellow linebacker Ted Sims, whose interception return for a touchdown sealed a 35-7 win. "I was waving goodbye to the Oklahoma fans and the Oklahoma team," he said.

    That lopsided loss was the only Big 12 le game upset that didn't cost a team a shot at a le, but it did force a change in the BCS formula. Oklahoma, by virtue of its lofty ranking and tough schedule, only dropped to No. 2 in the BCS rankings. The Sooners went to New Orleans and were beaten by LSU, while USC -- No. 1 in both human polls -- beat Michigan in the Rose Bowl to force a split le. After that, BCS leaders removed the dedicated strength-of-schedule component from the BCS formula.

    If Oklahoma doesn't hold serve Saturday, the Big 12 le game could work its black magic on the BCS again. Palm and other experts seem convinced 11-1 Texas would advance to the le game if Missouri pulls the upset, but what if human voters insist on a conference champ and elevate USC? Such weirdness would be par for the course in a game that seems to exist only to prove the absurdity of the BCS system year after year. Still, this year's combatants aren't worried about the cosmic significance of it all; they just want a le.

    "It's a one-game season right now," Missouri's Daniel said. "It's our playoff. It's Oklahoma's playoff. They're playing for the national le game. We're playing for the BCS. There's a lot on the line Saturday night."


    Big 12 Drama
    Teams with a chance to advance to play for the BCS le are 3-5 in the Big 12 le game
    1996: Texas 37, Nebraska 27 -- The unranked Longhorns shocked the third-ranked Cornhuskers, who would have faced Florida State in the Sugar Bowl for the national le.

    1998: Texas A&M 36, Kansas State 33 (2OT) -- Kansas State would have advanced to face Tennessee in the first BCS national le game, but Aggies RB Sirr Parker scored two touchdowns as Texas A&M rallied from a 27-12 deficit.

    2000: Oklahoma 27, Kansas State 24 -- The top-ranked Sooners, en route to the national le, staved off a late comeback from the Wildcats.

    2001: Colorado 39, Texas 37 -- Had the favored Longhorns beaten Colorado, they would have advanced to the Rose Bowl after Tennessee's loss to LSU that night in the SEC championship game. Instead, Nebraska -- which didn't win the Big 12 North -- won the right to get creamed by Miami for the national le.

    2003: Kansas State 35, Oklahoma 7 -- The top-ranked Sooners got stunned, but still reached the BCS le game.

    2004: Oklahoma 42, Colorado 3 -- Oklahoma won and advanced to the le game, but USC would not be denied in the Orange Bowl.

    2005: Texas 70, Colorado 3 -- No drama here. The second-ranked Longhorns rolled to set up an epic Rose Bowl against USC.

    2007: Oklahoma 38, Missouri 17 -- The day began with a potential Missouri-West Virginia matchup in the BCS le game. LSU and Ohio State wound up playing for the championship.

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    that dosent change the fact that it is a 3 way tie you cant say head to head counts in the ou texas game and not the ttu texas game
    I agree completely dude. that post was to make fun of whoever made that website...that THEY were the ones crying & being babies.

    Tech fan here, btw

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    that dosent change the fact that it is a 3 way tie you cant say head to head counts in the ou texas game and not the ttu texas game
    actually you can, when UT and OU are the two teams jocking for position at the top, while TT is out of the hunt.

    LMAO @ people thinking tech is actually in the hunt

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    actually you can, when UT and OU are the two teams jocking for position at the top, while TT is out of the hunt.

    LMAO @ people thinking tech is actually in the hunt
    You're right, Tech isn't in the hunt for a NC anymore, but they were in the hunt for the big 12 championship (before they got screwed just like UT). THAT is why you cant just throw out the 3-way tie.

    Just b/c one team is not in the running for a national championship, but still in the mix for a conference championship, doesnt mean you take them out of the equation.

    That makes absolutely NO sense & yet another reason why just looking at head to head to break a tie breaker wont always work & why the big 12 needs to take even more steps to change that.

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    You're right, Tech isn't in the hunt for a NC anymore, but they were in the hunt for the big 12 championship (before they got screwed just like UT). THAT is why you cant just throw out the 3-way tie.
    How did they get screwed? They got curbstomped by OU (the team playing for the big 12), BARELY beat freaking Baylor, and needed a freakish last second TD to beat UT despite UT playing the absolute worst they could have possibly played.

    Just b/c one team is not in the running for a national championship, but still in the mix for a conference championship, doesnt mean you take them out of the equation.
    When BCS rankings (which are the rankings that determine how you are doing in your race for a national championship, in case you didnt know) come into play for the tiebreaker, then obviously their NC running chances DOES come into play.

    That makes absolutely NO sense & yet another reason why just looking at head to head to break a tie breaker wont always work & why the big 12 needs to take even more steps to change that.
    Head to head should matter when it was a race as close as UT and OU were having. OU still beat UT out by only like .04 of a point. What is gay is the fact that OU got points for running up the score (sure it supposedly doesn't count in the computer polls, but it does in human polls, which are 2/3rds of the ranking process).

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    Head to head should matter when it was a race as close as UT and OU were having. OU still beat UT out by only like .04 of a point. What is gay is the fact that OU got points for running up the score (sure it supposedly doesn't count in the computer polls, but it does in human polls, which are 2/3rds of the ranking process).[/QUOTE]

    most of the Sooners big leads came in the first half, if you go look at the numbers you will find that texas scored more points in the 2nd half this year than OU did. So really texas ran it up mor then OU did.

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    most of the Sooners big leads came in the first half, if you go look at the numbers you will find that texas scored more points in the 2nd half this year than OU did. So really texas ran it up mor then OU did.
    every time i think you can't top yourself, you deliver.

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