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    and to think there is a list of players reportedly lining up to play for this franchise in 2010...

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    Thunder Dan:
    of course the contract isnt = slavery.
    but the story goes way back. Marbury has been traded from every single team he has been on. The Knicks gave him an opportunity, then another, then another, and another, and another. He pissed them all away. Now I agree, that if he wants the 21M for doing nothing, ok- the contract allows for that and he isnt cheating anyone by asking for that (I'm quite sure the players union will side with marbury over the docked pay, how do you really prove he refused to play?). but that means DO NOTHING. dont talk to reporters and dont ask to be let go. Just STFU and collect your checks.

    The problem is that Marbury wants the knicks to release him, but doesnt want to give up the money. The knicks would love to release him, but quite understandably want him to take less money.

    How many times has this happened in the NBA? None, because every player who has a ridiculous contract and a bad rep and wants out of his contract realizes one of two things:
    a) it, I've already made a ton of money and I want a change of scenery and if I only "worked" half the contract, its ok to take half the money
    b) it, I've already made a ton of money and I'd rather be playing the game I love than sitting on the bench and being made a fool of.

    Stephon Marbury wants to eat his cake and keep it too. That, and the fact that hes ed up his situation on every single team hes been on, makes me think the problem isnt the Knicks, but marbury.

    I'd bet everything I have that any team that picks marbury up will be worse off for it in a maximum of 2 years. He's worse than a cancer, he's the bubonic plague.

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    Thunder Dan:
    of course the contract isnt = slavery.
    but the story goes way back. Marbury has been traded from every single team he has been on. The Knicks gave him an opportunity, then another, then another, and another, and another. He pissed them all away. Now I agree, that if he wants the 21M for doing nothing, ok- the contract allows for that and he isnt cheating anyone by asking for that (I'm quite sure the players union will side with marbury over the docked pay, how do you really prove he refused to play?). but that means DO NOTHING. dont talk to reporters and dont ask to be let go. Just STFU and collect your checks.

    The problem is that Marbury wants the knicks to release him, but doesnt want to give up the money. The knicks would love to release him, but quite understandably want him to take less money.

    How many times has this happened in the NBA? None, because every player who has a ridiculous contract and a bad rep and wants out of his contract realizes one of two things:
    a) it, I've already made a ton of money and I want a change of scenery and if I only "worked" half the contract, its ok to take half the money
    b) it, I've already made a ton of money and I'd rather be playing the game I love than sitting on the bench and being made a fool of.

    Stephon Marbury wants to eat his cake and keep it too. That, and the fact that hes ed up his situation on every single team hes been on, makes me think the problem isnt the Knicks, but marbury.

    I'd bet everything I have that any team that picks marbury up will be worse off for it in a maximum of 2 years. He's worse than a cancer, he's the bubonic plague.
    I get all that, but if I ran the Knicks, and I saw a guy that had the past of Marbury's and even had issues with my own organization, I wouldn't give him a long term high paying contract. I know Marbury is trouble, but nobody forced the Knicks to sing him. It's the same reason that Pacman Jones will always make more money than other CB's in the NFL.. a checkered past should reflect in your value

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    D'Antoni was always know as snake in his days in Europe.

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    It's possible that in this particular set of events that both sides are pretty much equally being ing bags about this whole situation.


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    Did the Knicks sign Marbury or give him an extension or did he already have this max contract when he was traded from the Suns?

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    Here comes another Stevie Franchise type buyout from the Knicks. Actually the Knicks dodged a bullet with that one but I'm not sure how they did it. I supposed they just raped Paul Allen on that deal.

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    D'Antoni was always know as snake in his days in Europe.
    That girl in your sig is a butterface. She's hot everywhere but her face. LOL

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    That girl in your sig is a butterface. She's hot everywhere but her face. LOL
    True. Where is good place get other gifs like these?

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    Thunder Dan:
    of course the contract isnt = slavery.
    but the story goes way back. Marbury has been traded from every single team he has been on. The Knicks gave him an opportunity, then another, then another, and another, and another. He pissed them all away. Now I agree, that if he wants the 21M for doing nothing, ok- the contract allows for that and he isnt cheating anyone by asking for that (I'm quite sure the players union will side with marbury over the docked pay, how do you really prove he refused to play?). but that means DO NOTHING. dont talk to reporters and dont ask to be let go. Just STFU and collect your checks.

    The problem is that Marbury wants the knicks to release him, but doesnt want to give up the money. The knicks would love to release him, but quite understandably want him to take less money.

    How many times has this happened in the NBA? None, because every player who has a ridiculous contract and a bad rep and wants out of his contract realizes one of two things:
    a) it, I've already made a ton of money and I want a change of scenery and if I only "worked" half the contract, its ok to take half the money
    b) it, I've already made a ton of money and I'd rather be playing the game I love than sitting on the bench and being made a fool of.

    Stephon Marbury wants to eat his cake and keep it too. That, and the fact that hes ed up his situation on every single team hes been on, makes me think the problem isnt the Knicks, but marbury.

    I'd bet everything I have that any team that picks marbury up will be worse off for it in a maximum of 2 years. He's worse than a cancer, he's the bubonic plague.


    The problem with your arguement is this, if he just wanted out why was he as stated by the Knicks organization over the summer, "doing everything we asked him to do" that doesn't sound like someone wanting to leave even though I' sure he'd like to be elsewhere. According to D'Atoni Steph has been great, it's not him at all.

    Now based on what they've been saying all along he hasn't been a problem until they told him they had some minutes and ask if he would like them and he said he did't feel comfortable doing so since they told him he wasn't in their plans and alienated the guy since traing camp ended.

    You can't fault a guy for being honest about not wanting to play, you can however tell him he has to play and allow him to decline or accept. Marbury's crime with other clubs is they kept trading him for better PG's regardless of his arrogant statements in the past and his youger y status he hsn't done the wrong here, the Knicks have and they want out of the contract and that's what started the spiral. they never had him in their plans even during camp and they just prolonged this crap thinking Steph would break and take a buyout.

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    True. Where is good place get other gifs like these?
    I was going to put a nice set of hooters as my signature too

    what do you think?


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    It would be better if they bounced.

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    Noone should feel sorry for Marbury, the guy is RICH and has accomplished nothing but make teams he is on lose,insult other players,talk non sense and is a quitter. Best thing for that selfish prick would be to go over to Europe and maybe he can be the star he thinks he is. OVERRATED HEAD.

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    I was going to put a nice set of hooters as my signature too

    what do you think?


    I think I just lost my lunch

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    Marbury arrived around 2:30 p.m. and parked his Rolls Royce....
    I don't know, if I was trying to get my 21 MIL I'd show up in a pinto...

    Keep pimpin Starbury...

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    That, and the fact that hes ed up his situation on every single team hes been on, makes me think the problem isnt the Knicks, but marbury.
    Yeah, and the Knicks organization has an unblemished reputation for being a class-act organization..

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    The Knicks even with a new management still finds a way to be the laughingstock of the league.

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    I was going to put a nice set of hooters as my signature too

    what do you think?

    Jesus, man, not while I'm eating froot loops.

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    Yeah, and the Knicks organization has an unblemished reputation for being a class-act organization..
    the knicks are losers. but how many disputes have they had with players? or a reputation for being cheap?

    again, how many times has this happened in the history of the NBA, and what is the outcome 99% of the time. Buyout. Both sides compromise.

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    Jim Dolan needs to speed up end of Stephon Marbury mess

    Tuesday, December 2nd 2008, 10:30 AM
    Harbus for News As Mike D'Antoni leads Knicks practice Monday, Stephon Marbury (below) finds out he is no longer welcome to work out with team.

    Harbus for News As Mike D'Antoni leads Knicks practice Monday, Stephon Marbury finds out he is no longer welcome to work out with team.

    Mike D'Antoni likes his Knicks to race the ball up the court and take the first available shot, but what his bosses are doing to Stephon Marbury now is forcing him to play stall-ball. You want your money and your freedom, Steph? We'll get back to you. When? Check back with us Jan.1, at the earliest. In the meantime, don't come to games or practices. Enjoy collecting dust.


    That's what they said Monday when Marbury and team president Donnie Walsh failed to reach a buyout settlement. If you're surprised by the latest twist in the never-ending, always-depressing Marbury saga, you haven't been paying close attention.
    When it comes to dragging their feet at Two Penn Plaza, you've got two of the all-time slowpokes. Garden chairman Jim Dolan is Eddy Curry in a turtleneck.

    Walsh isn't exactly Usain Bolt, as evidenced by his abject failure to do anything of consequence in Indiana once the Pacers started to fall apart all around him. Marbury wants to play by the 24-second shot clock he's accustomed to, get his money and freedom and run all the way to Dallas or some other team that is desperate enough to import one of basketball's most talented losers.
    But he's stuck in a game without a clock, much less a sundial.

    It's quite a contrast to what Marbury is missing out on, the playground hoops passing for NBA basketball at the Garden. "It's like when you were a kid in the park, you just go up and down and enjoy the game," said Tim Thomas, neglecting to add that no one has ever won a ring playing this way.

    But in this game, Dolan and Walsh have taken the air out of Marbury's ball. They will drag this out for many more days and weeks. It's a gigantic PR blunder, but since when has Dolan ever cared about that? It's got to be driving Marbury crazier than if his favorite writer didn't pick up the phone on the first ring, breathlessly waiting to put all his pearls of wisdom into another Starbury infomercial. At this point, Marbury's head must be filled with so much lawyer-talk from Walsh, he'll be able to come out in another few weeks with his own new video, "My Guide to Being a First-Rate Attorney." And there will be only one place to read all about that, thank goodness.
    "Nothing has been resolved," was the official word that came down Monday.
    Should it have been taken care of by now? Back in September, at the very latest. The Knicks should have paid Marbury his $22 million and told him to get lost.
    That's how they would have changed the culture.

    But Marbury, swift as a hare in a gym, is in a conference room going against two tortoises. Dolan hasn't made an appearance during their first couple of talks, but he's been there in spirit.

    Check it out! Dallas mentioned as a home for Stephon Marbury! Oh pleeeeaase make this happen.

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    and to think there is a list of players reportedly lining up to play for this franchise in 2010...
    That's the thing that keeps popping into my head with every new article and wrinkle in this saga. They can rack up a ton of cap space but this sort of thing can torpedo them a lot of ways. Maybe it gives Lebron pause. Or even if they do land Lebron this is the sort of episode that will make the next generation of Cassells and Horry's, the seasoned vets that will be needed to round out a true contender, think twice as well.

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    Marbury to the Mavs, lets make it happen!

    SCrew this "cancer" talk! Dude's averaged 19/7 over his career. only Oscar and Magic are the other PG's who have done this!

    That's elite company... CHAMPIONSHIP company!

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    That's the thing that keeps popping into my head with every new article and wrinkle in this saga. They can rack up a ton of cap space but this sort of thing can torpedo them a lot of ways. Maybe it gives Lebron pause. Or even if they do land Lebron this is the sort of episode that will make the next generation of Cassells and Horry's, the seasoned vets that will be needed to round out a true contender, think twice as well.
    And who's to say this parade of stars even wants to play or will be motivated together? You can throw all that money out there, but inevitably someone's going to be content with their new contract and put it in cruise control.

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    Marbury to the Mavs, lets make it happen!

    SCrew this "cancer" talk! Dude's averaged 19/7 over his career. only Oscar and Magic are the other PG's who have done this!

    That's elite company... CHAMPIONSHIP company!
    Yeah, that's why every team he's ever been on has gone on to a le. You should write a heartfelt letter to Mark Cuban telling him how great an idea this is. Really. Go now. Why are you still here?

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    Yeah, that's why every team he's ever been on has gone on to a le. You should write a heartfelt letter to Mark Cuban telling him how great an idea this is. Really. Go now. Why are you still here?
    come on OV that's Tmac, Elton Brand, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Shawn Kemp, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, Karl Malone, John Stockton,etc etc

    He is a headstrong guy who thinks he knows more than he does and I think he's finally realizing this but this thing with the Knicks is mostly the Knicks screwing up. The reports all say that if you read past the HEADLINE of him supposely refusing to play, which is always reported as him being guilty despite him disputing it. D'Antoni basically has stated the same in support of Marbury.


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