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    Trade TP + JV for a big man

    Start Hill

    Go Spurs Go !
    George Hill
    6:26 min FG 0/0 2reb 0ast 2pf +/- -8 !!!

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    6:26 min FG 0/0 2reb 0ast 2pf +/- -8 !!!
    Hill not playing well since TP came back

    But when he starts.......

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    You're right, stats are always completely indicative of a player's performance. What was I thinking
    I've seen the game and the facts are : the stats are not so bad and he has played poorly but the rest of the team except TD and Bowen was much worse, so my point is the same : why do you blame him in particular ?

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    It's amazing how ing emo some of you can be when it comes to either Parker or Manu.

    He's not healthy, and Pop is not using his minutes in a way conducive to winning games. End of Story. The original post in this thread tried to get that message across, but some of you take it as the same old endless vacuous parker bashing. It's not. I'm not saying anything is your precious Parker's fault, I'm just saying he's not up for playing the way Pop is using him. So why are we using him?

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    I've seen the game and the facts are : the stats are not so bad and he has played poorly but the rest of the team except TD and Bowen was much worse, so my point is the same : why do you blame him in particular ?

    I never even began to blame him "in particular". This is why you parker/manu homers are the spurstalk.com bags of all time.

    It's not like its really possible the guy is still really hurt right? He played the best Parker he could possibly play, and was by far our best player right? GMAFB, and take your homer glasses off.

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    Let's not blame Parker. Let's just say its the 3 second rule. Anybody who holds the ball and dribbles for more than 3 seconds without passing is causing everyone else to play passive.

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    Hill not playing well since TP came back

    But when he starts.......
    Great, so the guy is a rookie and he needs to start over an all star because ... ? he is too sensitive and the TP presence annoys him ?

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    I never even began to blame him "in particular". This is why you parker/manu homers are the spurstalk.com bags of all time.

    It's not like its really possible the guy is still really hurt right? He played the best Parker he could possibly play, and was by far our best player right? GMAFB, and take your homer glasses off.


    than what is your beef exactly??

    if its not parkers fault, than why did you put the loss on him?

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    It's amazing how ing emo some of you can be when it comes to either Parker or Manu.

    He's not healthy, and Pop is not using his minutes in a way conducive to winning games. End of Story. The original post in this thread tried to get that message across, but some of you take it as the same old endless vacuous parker bashing. It's not. I'm not saying anything is your precious Parker's fault, I'm just saying he's not up for playing the way Pop is using him. So why are we using him?
    Name 3 spurs players that were playing better than TP tonight...
    1 Tim Duncan...

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    I couldn't watch the game, but judging by the stats, it seems to me TP was the least of the Spurs problems...

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    Great, so the guy is a rookie and he needs to start over an all star because ... ? he is too sensitive and the TP presence annoys him ?
    Hey, I was trying to get you started and it worked

    The whole team + Pop are to blame for tonight's loss

    TP rocks

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    I couldn't watch the game, but judging by the stats, it seems to me TP was the least of the Spurs problems...
    Well in fact he was not very good. But others were worse... beside Duncan.

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    Pop never wants his team jelling this early in the season, He would prefer kicking ass later and does this lineup bull tinkering every ing year and then is a genius when they close out the year big....

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    Pop never wants his team jelling this early in the season, He would prefer kicking ass later and does this lineup bull tinkering every ing year and then is a genius when they close out the year big....
    I like the way you think

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    Pop never wants his team jelling this early in the season, He would prefer kicking ass later and does this lineup bull tinkering every ing year and then is a genius when they close out the year big....
    True enough and every year stupid fans spend the early season ing about how Pop doesn't know what he's doing.

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    Gee you don't think the Pistons stifling defense had nothing to do with the Spurs problems?
    I actually like the Pistons, and I don't feel as bad losing to you guys than I was to Houston the other day. I'm also mad at you guys for not winning the Championship in those years where the Spurs didn't win it.

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    Wow !! it wasn't too long this time.

    it's what is amazing with hate, you can't argue against it.

    * obviously, TP isn't the worse player since he's back, you can even argue that he's maybe the best, but it's still his fault.

    * every stat show you that he's one of the best on the court, but it doesn't change anything.

    * he takes way less shot, make a lot more of assists (a lot ed up by fin and bonner) but he's still selfish. on the other hand, manu who was out too when we had our winning streak against weak teams will never see (fortunately) this kind of stupid thread against him.

    * Hill had his chance tonight but played poorly (it can happen) but it's still tp' fault. have tim or manu ever been considered responsible for another SG or forward poor play ?? NEVER

    * Manu make a three at the end of the game : he's our savior
    Tony makes two j's on the following possessions: he's a stupid asshole trying too late to make his stats looks good (it's true, read the thread on the game and others posts)

    * Tim has a good game and we lose: it's a shame that his stupid teamates waste his talent
    Tony has a great game and we still lose: it's his fault, he's a ballhog who makes his team plays poorly.

    * TP wasn't very good tonight, but he was still our 2nd best player

    YOU JUST CAN'T ARGUE WITH HATE AND STUPIDITY.

    fortunately, some of us seem to really see the game and understand what happen.

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    I never even began to blame him "in particular". This is why you parker/manu homers are the spurstalk.com bags of all time.

    It's not like its really possible the guy is still really hurt right? He played the best Parker he could possibly play, and was by far our best player right? GMAFB, and take your homer glasses off.
    Point taken. My bad.

    Now look at the board and check the number of threads regarding parker, it's ing crazy... it's quite normal to become parano.
    I'm a TP homer no doubt but I'm also a spurs homer and I'll react on the same way for Manu and TD.

    Now I disagree with u : TP is coming back and it was not painful to watch, bench him is not good idea right now.

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    Hey, I was trying to get you started and it worked

    The whole team + Pop are to blame for tonight's loss

    TP rocks

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    The team is better with TP.That's obvious.

    But the team is playing worse since he came back.That's obvious too.

    Finley was scoring 10 ppg.Hill was scoring 11ppg.Mason was playing like an all star...
    And we are winning games!!!

    Now we are losing again and these 3 boys are playing like if they were worse than JV.

    Pop needs to find a way to get involved these players.We can't win a lot of games without their points.

    And we need a big man too.Duncan can't play 40 minutes every game because he will be tired if we make the playoffs.

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    Point taken. My bad.

    Now look at the board and check the number of threads regarding parker, it's ing crazy... it's quite normal to become parano.
    I'm a TP homer no doubt but I'm also a spurs homer and I'll react on the same way for Manu and TD.

    Now I disagree with u : TP is coming back and it was not painful to watch, bench him is not good idea right now.
    There are alot of idiots saying start Hill over Parker or Trade Parker or that bull . All I'm saying is "why are we using him in this manner at this point in time?"

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    There are alot of idiots saying start Hill over Parker or Trade Parker or that bull . All I'm saying is "why are we using him in this manner at this point in time?"
    Because
    With TP 35:37min Spurs are +2
    Without TP 12:23min Spurs are -14

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    I guess that it will take some time to get back a good chemistry... they did not play with Manu since May... there is lot of new players. Pop has a lot of work to do.

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    Point taken. My bad.

    Now look at the board and check the number of threads regarding parker, it's ing crazy... it's quite normal to become parano.
    I'm a TP homer no doubt but I'm also a spurs homer and I'll react on the same way for Manu and TD.

    Now I disagree with u : TP is coming back and it was not painful to watch, bench him is not good idea right now.
    you're not parano at all.

    look at the original post and you'll see it's a bashing TP thread.
    The OP is trying to make it looks nice now. LAME.

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    Because
    With TP 35:37min Spurs are +2
    Without TP 12:23min Spurs are -14
    LOL you keep posting those +/- numbers in every single post you make... that stat is ing useless... seriously, it's bull .

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