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    Thee are some basic points to look at when you consider trades :

    First, lateral moves. If Spurs do a trade that impacts them, it can't be a lateral move. The new player should be able to help more Spurs than what Spurs currently have that is to say he must be good and fits well with the team. And despite what some people thinks, every single NBA big isn't better than Oberto, Thomas or Bonner.

    Second, keeping it realistic. Other teams won't make gifts to Spurs. Spurs don't have tons of good trading assets.

    Third, the 2010 plan. If you trade for a player with a post 2010 contract, this player should be worth the capspace he will take in 2010.


    When you consider these three factors, it's damn hard for Spurs to do a trade for a big. Available players with a short term contracts will result in a lateral move. Available players with a long term contract are too marginal to eat some 2010 cap space. Right now, I haven't read a poster on ST with a trade proposal that is both realistic and good for Spurs. Nick Collison is maybe the most interesting idea in this thread but he will eat too much capspace in 2010.

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    Well I've got nothing new to offer as far as this season goes, but I think that next preseason we will be seeing Tolliver and James Gist battling it out for the "Malik" spot, much like we saw Farmer and Salim fighting over the newly invented "Eddie House" role...

    except hopefully it'll actually amount to something in the season

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    Reading your objective assessment of the Spurs, I'm surprised they've been able to win any games at all, never mind actual championships. It appears the Suns have gotten in your eyes and you ain't seeing too clearly.
    Like I said the Malik player wasn't needed in 2005 or 2007, and Popovich probably knew that in 2005 and know Nazr would do a lot more against the Suns than Malik, but in 2006 I think they kill the Mavs with Malik and in 2008 with a healthy Manu and a Malik type player they probably beat LA. If the Suns had clouded my view, I would tell you the Spurs don't have an overrated power forward who whines about not taking enough shots and says he is as good as Dwight Howard but doesn't rebound or play defense, and that every team needs that kind of cancer in their locker room (if you ever need that player though I think the Suns' "fan" base be more than down with Duncan 4 Amare )


    My beginning post was probably a little (ok it was really really) redundant, but I just thought having a guy like Malik or Scola was something that was getting talked about more and more and could use it's own thread.


    In regards to Ty Thomas, I have no idea what Chicago wants for him, if they do want a 1st round pick for him then NO should any team trade for him. There is a short list of players who fit the need and have a contract short and cheap enough, but if anyone can find that player it's RC or Pop.

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    He's 32 years old, has a career average of 8 ppg and 7 rpg per while averaging 20 mpg.
    He's physical can score on the block and opposing big men hate playing against him as he is an enforcer type. He has a 79% career FT average and is currently healthy, 6-8 and 260 lbs and can be had as a free agent. Would you want him? Would you consider him? Oh yeah, his name is Danny Fortson.

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    Ive been saying it for awhile now. Mourning and Mutombo are still FA's and my guess is they look to give valuable minutes for strictly defense and rebounding.

    Both want to play for a contender and both are more than capable defenders for playing 15-20 minutes a night.

    we have the money to offer them and the playing time.

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    Ive been saying it for awhile now. Mourning and Mutombo are still FA's and my guess is they look to give valuable minutes for strictly defense and rebounding.

    Both want to play for a contender and both are more than capable defenders for playing 15-20 minutes a night.

    we have the money to offer them and the playing time.
    I wouldn't mind Mourning at all. I really don't need to list the reasons for it. They are pretty obvious.

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    Brad Miller is disgruntled in Sacramento. The team is turning to Spencer Hawes and is taking more of his minutes. His contract expires after next year. He can pass, defend, shoot, and play hard and mean. He would be a great compliment to Tim. Sacramento is struggling and just may be stupid enough to take JV for his great working history with Beno, Kurt Thomas as an upgrade to Kenny Thomas, and Bonner for some improved shooting for their team. Add a pick or some dough and get it done.

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    I wouldn't mind Mourning at all. I really don't need to list the reasons for it. They are pretty obvious.
    Id have to agree, I used to think guys like Mutumbo, Camby and Mourning got to much credit for just staying inside standing there waiting for someone to come and block they're shots.(Drob had the full game back in the days). And now I look at our clubs big who stay inside and do nada. Poor rebounders, poor shotblockers, and poor scorers. Mourning wouldnt be as easy to drive in and dunk on like Fab or Kurt. Last season in the POs defending Timmy was basically 2 7fters raising their hands. And that was more then enough to deter Timmys shot. And it kept most of the other bigs guarding Tim out of foul trouble as well. The only thing is this. Like the Celtics did with PJ Brown, bringing him in towards the end of the season. I dont think our Spurs can wait that long. We need the help right now. And Im not sure these bigs we're talking about are ready to play right now. Someone said it earlier, in a few words or more. This may be the bigs we're stuck with. There might not be any other bigs who would come in and help right now better then Fab and Kurt. Unless we let go of one of our Big 3. Either way, Ill be there. Just wish I could get into Hockey like Basketball.

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