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I'm not sure there are many left he hasn't already reneged on and his inauguration is still weeks away.
Wouldn't that make a good thread le?
I'm not sure there are many left he hasn't already reneged on and his inauguration is still weeks away.
You.
They are getting a guy with sound judgment who isn't an idiot. That's pretty much a home run after these past eight years.I'm just pointing out this is not what a good portion of his voters thought they were getting.
Yeah, the windfall profits tax was the #1 burning issue of our time.If you can't admit that, you're just arguing because I'm Yonivore.
I'm having fun watching you support Obama now. There's room on the bandwagon.Have fun with that.
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Game.
Set.
Yeah, good luck with that.
i'll say
Thanks. That actually sounds like it could be a word. Urban Dictionary has an entry.
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so that kinda sucks, I was kinda waiting for yoni's response to my last post as it seemed like Yoni and I were finding some middle ground. Then WC and CD decided to take this thread to a different place. I hate it when that happens. I don't think that we could have agreed on a lot, but we may have been able to have a discussion. Now it seems that Yoni has been spurred back to the usual nonproductive partisanship. I am not the person that was going to convince him that the left is the place to be, but I think I would have enjoyed a good conversation between "adversaries." Oh well I guess I will have to settle for all the poker I won tonight.
God forbid you would actually want the best for our country, i.e. our President to succeed during his term in the White House.
You might be a decent poster if you were so much less of a partisan hack. But that would cut about 95% of the stuff you post out of the political forum.
wouldn't surprise me if that evil KBR get some of these contracts... because I don't see too many liberal lefties picking up shovels and mixing concrete for the sake of the messiah... lol.. man this getting fun to watch....
CHICAGO – President-elect Barack Obama said Saturday he's asked his economic team for a recovery plan that saves or creates more than 2 million jobs, makes public buildings more energy-efficient and invests in the country's roads and schools.
"We won't just throw money at the problem," Obama said in his weekly radio address and Internet video. "We'll measure progress by the reforms we make and the results we achieve — by the jobs we create, by the energy we save, by whether America is more compe ive in the world."
Obama's remarks come after the Labor Department announced Friday that employers cut 533,000 jobs in November, the most in 34 years.
Obama said his plan would put millions of people to work by "making the single largest new investment in our national infrastructure since the creation of the federal highway system in the 1950s."
He also wants to install energy-saving light bulbs and replace old heating systems in federal buildings to cut costs and create jobs.
School buildings would get an upgrade, too. "Because to help our children compete in a 21st century economy, we need to send them to 21st century schools," Obama said.
As a part of the plan, Obama said he wants to expand Internet access in communities. Hospitals also should be connected to each other online.
"Here, in the country that invented the Internet, every child should have the chance to get online," he said.
Obama said he would announce other details of the economic recovery plan in the coming weeks. He said he'd work with Congress to pass the initiative when lawmakers reconvene in January.
Depends on what you mean by success.
I don't want him to succeed in turning this nation into a socialist country. So, if that's your idea of success, you're right, I hope he fails miserably.
If, by partisan, you mean I have certain ideals that, if someone else's are counter to that I oppose them, yeah, I confess. Going along to get along isn't my idea of non-partisanship.
The 'not being an idiot' one.
Well it's nice to see Yoni telling the truth...
Also, didn't some guy named Nixon go to China? Must be the terrorist-loving Nixon who would never dare show weakness and talk to any enemy. Not the President one.
Now, even die-hard lib...err, progressives, are singing the WTF tune...
David Corn: This Wasn’t Quite the Change We Pictured.
Ah yes, our moral and intellectual superiors are surprised that President Obama is not going to adopt Kumbaya as his foreign policy.
That’s because he does not want to be Jimmy Carter.
Corn has a nice I’m-shocked piece in the Washington Post:
Thankfully, common sense has triumphed over stupidity.
Obama wisely rejected the lefty argument that everything Bush did must be reversed.
Maybe, Corn wrote, Obama is trying “stealth liberalism.”
If so, that would be an even more damning indictment of the political impracticality of the ideas of the left.
Let's review, the man was elected with the highest percentage of votes for any Democrat in 44 years. He has wide margins in each house of Congress.
And he still must do “stealth liberalism”?
Corn’s “stealth liberalism,” if he's correct, is an admission that even under the best of cir stances, being a liberal is toxic in politics. Note his use of progressive rather than liberal.
His column is basically go-along-to-get-along advice that ends with, “If strong progressive voices are not included in Obama’s wild and woolly free-for-alls at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., they will have little choice but to find outlets on the outside (remember the Internet?) — and become their own agents of change.”
Yes, a few fiery posts at Daily Kos will bring the world to its knees.
The left is his old girlfriend. Nice. Pretty. But not the kind one marries.
Obama has a pattern of tossing supporters under the bus at the earliest convenience. Corn might want to consider that.
Yoni is the ........................
Yoni just became the biggest Obama supporter on this board.
I can see why he is upset.
And, the buyer's remorse deepens....
Liberals voice concerns about Obama
Freakin' hilarious.
joke about the Emily Litella editorial where she was condemning "No violins in school...", when the actual story was "violence in school" ??it reads, violins
You expected everyone to be happy?
Thanks for the reminder, but I was talking about Yoni and WC, etc.
yeah, I know. I was commenting on Viva's comment on his own "violins" comment that nobody knew what he was referring to with it...Thanks for the reminder, but I was talking about Yoni and WC, etc.
I didn't read this thread, I just stopped in and saw the "emily litella" and "violins" and was reminded of the old skits.
ok I'll leave now
I am trying to understand what Yoni is criticizing.
Are you laughing at Obama-supporters/liberals for thinking Obama was more liberal/socialist than they thought he was?
Or are you trying to criticize Obama for essentialy being a centrist, in direct contrast (so far) to what you have have tried to portray him as in previous posts?
That seems an odd contradiction you find yourself in, Yoni. Maybe CD is on to something here...
Yes. Well who thought he'd govern more to the left than reality is going to allow him to do.
Only on foreign affairs and the economy -- and, it appears he may actually come up a bit right of center on those two.
But, with his massive spending proposal on domestic issues, I think we'll see the true socialist emerge in due time.
What I find amusing is that the MoveOn.org and Code Pink and organized labor idiots are who put him in over Hillary and they're basically getting thrown under the bus with Wright, Ayers, et. al. and they're pissed.
It's amusing. Pardon me for being amused.
Not at all and CD has been "on to" anything in his life.
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