If Manu doesn't sign an extension offer with the Spurs and is a FA going into 2010, he just might get a big offer from a desperate club. I think there will be more willing teams than FAs in 2010 and someone is going to be looking to spend.
And while Manu definitely will be in decline skill-wise, he will still bring the toughness, leadership, and winning at ude to the floor every night. I can think of alot of teams with money to burn that would overpay for that. If he's a FA going into 2010, I'd put it at 50%.
Again, all depending on whether or not he gets an extension....
I would say that the Spurs will extend Manu at the end of the season for about 2 years between 15 and 25 millions, thatīs very close to what he is earning now.
After the extnsion he might be traded, but if the spurs donīt extend him he will count against the cap like a max contrac and that would limiit the spurs even more than having manu signed.
I see no problem while Tim Duncan is still on the team. Parker's young enough to bolt to another team that throws the kitchen sink at him which I suspect will happen as a FA.
are you serious ??Manu is pretty cute a player with duncan's PicknRoll and drawing defense pressure, but he isn't gonna be that cute with the pressure Tims draws for him. He is a great player here in san antonio but he is nothing in any other team. Just like Ben wallace who was thrice year's defender in detroit but just a crap in either Chicago or Cleverland, Manu won't be a little bit better than ben's case if we walks from san antonio to Houston or Dallas.
Fool Ben is in CLEVERland.
please. manu would be great in any team. do you realize that he plays a lot without tim and even tony on the court and he does look good for me.
anyway, i don't even know why i'm arguing that manu would suck outside the spurs when he had been a star with argentina and in europe.
again, were you really serious ??
argentina winning the gold medal with manu as their leader pretty much negates your argument.Manu is pretty cute a player with duncan's PicknRoll and drawing defense pressure, but he isn't gonna be that cute with the pressure Tims draws for him. He is a great player here in san antonio but he is nothing in any other team. Just like Ben wallace who was thrice year's defender in detroit but just a crap in either Chicago or Cleverland, Manu won't be a little bit better than ben's case if we walks from san antonio to Houston or Dallas.
Fool Ben is in CLEVERland
@ Manu fan's thinking he's not appreciated. He is very much liked and loved by Spur fans. He is going to stay a Spur probably until the end of his career. Sometimes it's business though so you never really know. But I doubt Manu will leave because he feels like he doesn't get the credit he deserves from the fans. The only person I can imagine leaving is Tony Parker, because he may feel the Spurs will not be a contender anymore and will want to play for one.
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Manu will stay a Spur as long as Pop Still wants him on the team... It would take a really bad offer from the FO and a great one from other team to leave otherwise, but if that happens, means he's not wanted anyways.
Don't forget Manu initially took a giant reduction in his paycheck when he came into the NBA from the Euroleague; he wanted to play for the NBA and he wanted to play for the Spurs. With all the time he has spent here, all the friends he has made, and the hilariously brash and ubiquitous fan base, I just don't see him leaving San Antonio to play somewhere else for two, maybe three years. Unless he'd go back to the Euroleague, that is.
If Manu signs for what TimVP says, that means no "big" free agent in 2010.
I think he would take less money from the Spurs than to go to another team for more. He is a very humble human being and very commited to this organization..I love that about him!!! So I think he would rather stick around here truthfully!!! Loyalty is a Great thing!!!
But how many contenders do you think are going to give max contracts?....That is what it would take to get him and usually le contenders already have enough depth on their rosters and little cap space. So it is always the ty teams who offer the most money.
Manu will finish his career as a Spur. You can bet on that.
Manu's already said countless times that he plans to retire his whole career with the spurs i've seen his interviews as well as his own website he's confirmed this many times if you learn to read and check it out, this is a stupid post"". MANU'S ONE OF THE UNTOUCHABLES"" POP'S ALREADY COPNFIRMED THIS AS HAS THE SPURS MNGMNT. no joke". he's too important.
The Spurs made Manu. He's not going anywhere. Same with Tony. At least as long as Pop is at the helm of the franchise.
Pop did screw Del Negro, maybe Manu is next.
ginobili is a good player but i rather the spurs let him go than offer him an overpriced contract just to repay him for the past years. at 33-35, he's going to be the type of player brent barry was - spreading the floor with 3's and passing. that's not worth $11-12 million a year. if i remember correctly, barry and finley got around $6-8 million at about the same age. that's what the spurs should offer ginobili. overpaying him by $6 million would disrupt the plan of bringing in new talent for the future. have to rebuild at some point.
While your point is correct i would say that franchises known for overpaying at the end of a players career sucha as we did with bowen, and we may did with the Duncan extension and probably manuīs too is a label that top teams have.
When you are trying to lure free agents on the cheap, having this reputation will help you find players willing to play for a small first contract to be in an organization known for respecting their word.
Damn it, 2 people beat me making this dumb look like an imbecil.
that's true but rewarding players in their old age with overpriced contracts destroys teams. shaq, kidd, and j. o'neal all pop into mind as players whose heavy contracts bog down a team's ability for flexibility. ginobili's contract won't nearly reach this level but the spurs would be more susceptible to other teams offering a little bit more to lure one or two free agents away without the extra $6 million. there are a lot of teams with plenty of cap room in 2010 and all teams have an MLE to spend. spurs need enough money to outbid other teams with MLE.
he'll be offered/asking the same contract he has now. he deserves more but he also wants to win.
I miss manu when he was unstoppable and makin them 30 points a night back to back . Now he seems to be missing alot and doing more turn overs than making shots. Is he done?
That much? Seems like a lot for a 34-5 yo with lots of miles... not that I begrudge it to him at all, he took a paycut on his current contract to help the team, but wouldn't giving Manu that much compromise the vaunted 2010 FA plan the FO is all about?
Huh? Hasn't that been the plan since the '07 ring? Isn't that what all the short-term contracts are about? Why would they change it now? What do you know that we don't? Do tell!
My guess is that a Manu extension comes at a decent discount in the 2010 year, similar to how Duncan's contract is structured ($18M in 2010 and $22M in 2011). I'd guess Manu gets somewhere around $7-8M in 2010 and then it bumps to $11-12M in the next year (or two).
That should keep the Spurs compe ive for max or near-max deals if they want to dole them out.
Note: They could do that kind of deal and make a max deal for one of the restricted FAs (lower "max" than players w/ 6 or more years in the league). Someone like LeMarcus Aldridge or Rudy Gay maybe.
EPIC FAIL.Manu is pretty cute a player with duncan's PicknRoll and drawing defense pressure, but he isn't gonna be that cute with the pressure Tims draws for him. He is a great player here in san antonio but he is nothing in any other team. Just like Ben wallace who was thrice year's defender in detroit but just a crap in either Chicago or Cleverland, Manu won't be a little bit better than ben's case if we walks from san antonio to Houston or Dallas.
Fool Ben is in CLEVERland
Your credentials as a Spurs fan are revoked as you have obviously never watched the team play.
Fer sake, get off your bull high horse. The Spurs don't OWN Manu, they HIRE him. He can do whatever he likes in the off-season within the bounds of his contract. Playing for your national team is not treacherous.
By your rationale, any US team players (or Chinese, or any other national team) who carried an injury into the Olympics and decided to try to play through it are also "traitors". By your rationale, anyone who plays for their country is a traitor to their commercial team. By your rationale, money is more important than country.
Do you ever come with an insightful take? I'm yet to see one.
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