Why not waive Marks instead of Sato?
Sato was never going to play. Ever. Maybe if two of our swingmen suddenly died, but that's about it. So that's not a real concern.So you are happy to ditch unproven Sato for a lump of like Brewer?Remains to be seen. If he's healthy and consistent as he was earlier this season before the injury, that's all that's needed.And Mohammed?
Why not waive Marks instead of Sato?
Right, and Mohammed was untouchable.
How the do you know?Maybe if two of our swingmen suddenly died, but that's about it.
Mother ...Mohammed plays for the ing Knicks...someone has got to get the rebounds on that team... you mother ers are stupid.So that's not a real concern.Remains to be seen. If he's healthy and consistent as he was earlier this season before the injury, that's all that's needed.
What part of "pretty much" three months and a coach ago did you not get?Right, and Mohammed was untouchable.Because Sato would never beat out Barry, Manu, Bowen or Brown.How the do you know?
Ever.
Make an argument he would.So your prediction for Malik was to get 10 boards a game in NY. So he'll suck too. Mother , indeed.Mohammed plays for the ing Knicks...someone has got to get the rebounds on that team.
I am SO ING ANGRY that the Spurs waived Sato. He did EVERYTHING that they asked of him. HEARTLESS BAS S!
Just holding up the mirror for a few posters to look at themselves in, Shel.
LOL. The part where you were right about him being untradeable.
Barry and Bowen are long in the tooth...and who knows for certain that Brown will even resign here?Because Sato would never beat out Barry, Manu, Bowen or Brown.
Is that the "Mohammed is untradeable" kind of "ever", or the "you are stupid for" kind of "ever"?Ever.
Please shut the up...this is a classic example of you getting off on some side issue...Make an argument he would.So your prediction for Malik was to get 10 boards a game in NY. So he'll suck too. Mother , indeed.
Just like you trying to make my Barry deal about set minutes...
Who the knows what Isaiah is going to do?
I can tell you that if Malik gets 35 MPG he will put up 15 and 10...but who knows if he will get those kinds of minutes?
On top of that there is only @28 games left in the season...what does it matter who averages what? It won't be an accurate sample.
Malik has proven he can be the primary back up big on an NBA champion...he has proven the Spurs can beat Shaq in a playoff series with him getting big minutes guarding Shaq...
What in the has Mohammed proven?
That he can pull down 8 boards a game on a ty team?
Who cares?
Does it help his team? Does it keep them from sucking? No.
And that's all he's got going for him.
Kinda like Charlie Ward put up good numbers for the Knicks...what happened when he went to a real team?
In other words -- it's a lock. Just another sure thing like Heal. We get it. You argue best in reverse.Barry and Bowen are long in the tooth...and who knows for certain that Brown will even resign here?It's a classic example of your ing yourself with your own words.this is a classic example of you getting off on some side issueBut it won't mean anything because he is on a ty team -- according to your own words.I can tell you that if Malik gets 35 MPG he will put up 15 and 10...but who knows if he will get those kinds of minutes?If you can argue Sato > Barry and Bowen in some distant future and can't see anything approaching a possible upside to this trade, you're a liar and a hypocrite.What in the has Mohammed proven?
Again.
WTF did Malik do before he was a Spur?
Because there is more risk in losing a big and not having a back-up compared to losing a 2 guard and not having a back-up.Why not waive Marks instead of Sato?
And yes, a team is restricted to 15 players under contract(unless players are out for the season). So someone had to be dropped. Here are your options.
Marks - NO PT so he was a possible drop, but with Horry hurt, Nazr new to the system, and Duncan & Nes coming off injuries, he is an obvious keep
Johnson - NO PT so he was a possible drop, but would thin our size at the SF
Sato - NO PT so he was a possible drop plus he has 4 obvious SG's in front of him on the depth chart
Wilks - Has shown solid play in his few minutes and is better than Brewer
Another thing is that Marks, Johnson, Wilks, and Brewer all have experience prior to this year in the NBA. Sato didn't. Sorry he had to go. I was hopefull he could work out. He didn't and that is too bad. But that doesn't mean he won't be back later. Maybe he could get some quality time in the NBDL and work his way up. Worked for Devin Brown and Matt Carroll.
Yawn...why do you always speak for the collective? No one is a dense as you are so I think you do the rest of the forum a disservice when you speak in the collective like that.
No it's a classic example of you getting off on some stupid tangent. Just like the set minutes thing with Barry.You argue best in reverse.It's a classic example of your ing yourself with your own words.
Accoring to my own words, in a totally different discussion that has no relevance to whether or not Mohammed is better for our team than Malik, Malik is capable of 15 and 10...But it won't mean anything because he is on a ty team -- according to your own words.
No, you're just a dumbass. Seriously.If you can argue Sato > Barry and Bowen in some distant future and can't see anything approaching a possible upside to this trade, you're a liar and a hypocrite.
Again.
Do you think Jamison is going to be better than Sato? Do you think he is more likely to get minutes?
We are basically ditching a proven championship caliber back up bigman, and unproven rookie guard, for an unproven big and a proven ty player...not to mention we gave up two #1 picks.
The only upside to this trade is financial, and there's no doubt of the financial upside.....but every thing concerning championships is a gamble and a bad one.
Geez what a you are, either that or you are too stupid to see the difference in portion of career not with the Spurs, between Rose and Mohammed....WTF did Malik do before he was a Spur?
Whatever, live stupid.
at least Whottt sticks to his guns on his Anti management Fire pop cause hes horrible stance.
And at least TPark continues to make up...Ooh I talked back to you after you said something stupid to me...
Are you going to whine and threaten to leave now?
I'd expect no less from a guy who wanted to tank the season over a sprained ankle.
You whine louder when you're wrong.No it's a classic example of you getting off on some stupid tangent. Just like the set minutes thing with Barry.Of course it's relevant, unless you're saying you can't be held accountable for what you post because you constantly contradict yourself.Accoring to my own words, in a totally different discussion that has no relevance to whether or not Mohammed is better for our team than Malik, Malik is capable of 15 and 10.0 = 0. So there's no difference.Do you think Jamison is going to be better than Sato? Do you think he is more likely to get minutes?So you are saying right here and now Nazr will not work out.The only upside to this trade is financialAnd yet your prediction changes not one iota. Your nonargument in a nuts .but every thing concerning championships is a gamble and a bad one.What is the difference? Nazr has had the misfortune of being on more ty teams than Malik. Had Malik been on several ty teams you'd think he was horrible too. Just like you did with Barry -- oops, wait -- you didn't. Another contradiction. Amazing.Geez what a you are, either that or you are too stupid to see the difference in portion of career not with the Spurs, between Rose and Mohammed.
I have my concerns about Nazr, but no more than I had about Malik. You obviously don't either, otherwise your predictions would have changed.
Shame someone had to be cut to make way for Brewer. Any chance Sato would sit around ala Marks last season after he was waived??
Spurs got rid of Malik's contract. WTF is there to argue about?
If you think it won't affect the Spurs' season, PLENTY!Spurs got rid of Malik's contract. WTF is there to argue about?
MAlik was not a major player for the Spurs dip . How many DNPs does it take for you to see the light?
Malik has been ineffective since David left. Not only did he have to make up for David's absence, he got Popbused because Rasho has no balls and that made the expectation even worse.
Malik was way in the overpaid. The Spurs dumped that contract. The Spurs now have help down low.
Spurs dumped big dollars and replaced it with the exact same thing.
Obviously you don't know about business.
No, I whine louder when you get even stupider.
Holy ...scroll up and read. It doesn't matter what they average, just like it didn't matter with Barry how many minutes Barry averaged.Of course it's relevant, unless you're saying you can't be held accountable for what you post because you constantly contradict yourself.
No, there is difference. We know Jamison sucks. We don't know Sato sucks.0 = 0. So there's no difference.
Malik is proven Nazr is unproven, I think Malik is a better player, let me be clear on this, but then again, I don't always judge players by stats...Hedo...So you are saying right here and now Nazr will not work out.And yet your prediction changes not one iota.
I think the Spurs are a very strong team and still strong enough to win a le...but I think this makes it harder to do so.
I might, I might not. I know for a fact the Spurs can win a le with Malik as the main back up big...can you say the same about Mohammed?Your nonargument in a nuts .What is the difference? Nazr has had the misfortune of being on more ty teams than Malik. Had Malik been on several ty teams you'd think he was horrible too.
Stupid. I said the team was better with Barry getting chances to impact the game in both halves...I ed when he was not given chances to impact the game in the second half...you made it about average minutes. Two different things, you are just too stupid to realize it.Just like you did with Barry -- oops, wait -- you didn't. Another contradiction. Amazing.
Malik has been a huge part of the chemistry on this team for nearly a decade...he's also proven to be able to play big in big games.I have my concerns about Nazr, but no more than I had about Malik. You obviously don't either, otherwise your predictions would have changed.
Nazr comes from a losing environment and the only reason people like him is because he put up mediocre rebounding numbers as as the starting C on a ty team.
Malik knows the Spurs sytem, he's proven he can be the back up on a championship team...
Nazr has proven nothing of the kind. All he's proven he can pull down 8 boards a game as the starting center on a crappy Eastern team.
Stats on ty teams are meaningless.
@ sequ.
RIF.
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So why even argue numbers then? If they don't matter, stfu about them.It doesn't matter what they averageWe know he's not going to displace the four guys ahead of him and that Beno and Parker are going to play minutes together too. 0 = 0. Known.No, there is difference. We know Jamison sucks. We don't know Sato sucks.but your prediction for the Spurs season doesn't change with Nazr in Malik's place.I think Malik is a better playerYet you bit and were severely owned. And Barry plays those minutes at those important times because he earned the right to. Just like I said he would.Two different things, you are just too stupid to realize it.So you promise never to post one of Malik's lines from the Knicks then.Stats on ty teams are meaningless.
Thanks in advance.
Chump, you colossal dip ...if it was about numbers for me, I would probably like this trade. YOUUUUUU brought up numbers. My 15 and 10 comment was a totally different discussion in a diffferent thread that had nothing to do with which player is a proven championship backup, and I wasn't even talking to you.
Asshole! You brought numbers into this argument!If they don't matter, stfu about them.
Oh please...only in you and TimVP's world...you went out on a "huge" limb and predicted Barry would average over 10 mins...big ing whoop. Your prediction was entirely based on what Pop would do and had little or nothing to do with the basketball knowledge and team performance.Yet you bit and were severely owned.
BFD, you were also right about him waiving Heal and keeping Carter..what's your point? That you can predict moves by Pop better than I? BFD.
Um we win more with him getting more minutes regardless of his shot...just like I said we would.And Barry plays those minutes at those important times because he earned the right to. Just like I said he would.
You defended losing.
Barry's numbers haven't improved really at all...and he was hitting clutch shots even when Pop was sitting him stupidly.
All you did was guess what Pop would do...like I said then...I'm glad Pop is not using Barry as stupidly as he used Kerr. He's gotten smarter on offense, congrats to him and you.
That doesn't change the fact that all those games where Barry sat in the second half were losses that you defended.
LMFAO! You said he wouldn't. Dumbass!you went out on a "huge" limb and predicted Barry would average over 10 mins.It wasn't about numbers.Barry's numbers haven't improved really at all.And believe in Barry more than you ever did, pussy. He earned his minutes without your pussy welfare.All you did was guess what Pop would do. Your prediction was entirely based on what Pop and little or nothing to do with the basketball knowledge and team performance.
They had to waive someone. They'll resign as soon as they waive Brewer.
Don't freak out.
Right, I thought Pop was going to rot him out on the bench stupidly...like he did with Kerr. I wonder why I thought that?
What you still fail to realize is that it was never about minutes for me. I might about his usage if he gets over 15 minutes, and I might not if he gets under 10. It just depends on when he is used.
Yeah, that why you enjoyed losses with him on the bench more than you did wins with him off it...Nothing says "I belive in you" like saying a guy sucks, is playing scared etc...all of which you said.And believe in Barry more than you ever did, pussy.
What I didn't believe in was Pop's offensive IQ...and if it makes you feel any better, I'm still not sold on it.
He's not doing anything differently now....and if he is I'd like you to show me what it is...He earned his minutes without your pussy welfare.
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