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    What are you serious!?!
    I'm a city employee, if she gets a raise I think we should get 1!
    Here I'm not the only one read for yourself!!!!!!
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Swe...wAllComments=y

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    What do you think she hasn't done? What would you have wanted her to do that she hasn't?

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    http://www.pe iononline.com/abcsatx/pe ion.html

    This is for people that dissagree....

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    But WHY do you disagree? Do you even know?

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    You do realize that cities with higher bond rates pay lower interest which then in turn saves them a load of money? 20k a year is nothing compared to what San Antonio will pay on a lower bond rating.

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    What she hasn't saved us !
    She has raised taxes since shes been here!

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    The city needs money to run. The fact that taxes have gone up doesn't mean she hasn't saved the city a great deal of money. You realize that even the council members who were critics of her hiring are fully on board with this issue because of the job she's done?

    I gave you a clear example of how she's saved money above. If you choose to ignore it then so be it. From what I can tell, you have no idea why you're opposing this.

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    A AAA bond!? Give me a break!!!
    We threw money @ her & her family, for nothing!
    Our city needs money for OUR CITY!!

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    She saved money for our city. Is it really that hard of a concept to get? The city needs credit just like everyone else, and when their credit rating goes up they pay less interests, just like everyone else.

    And that's the only issue I've touched on. Never mind how much money her restructuring program has saved the city. Or the Police and Firemen she's helped add on to the force.

    You should really at least have a reason why you oppose it.

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    Thats exactlly the subject I'm hitting!!
    She hasn't helped our Brothers or the Finest---AT ALL!!!
    OUR CITY, needs help roads, lights, sewer on & on!!

    I'm wondering why Hardberger is pushing for this to be done before the year is up!?! Whats really goin on!?!

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    Maybe because he knows its a good idea to keep the person who's doing a damn good job? Maybe if she turned water into wine you'd be on board with thiss.

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    Don't get me wrong, this bond was on the ballot in march '07!
    It was for Streets and sidewalks, drainage, parks (which I dont get cuz they used to be free!!! not anymore),and community initiatives!!!

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    Heres the link incase you forgot:
    http://www.sanantonio.gov/2007bond/?res=1024&ver=true

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    Parks are free? I'm pretty sure parks were never free.

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    What are you serious!?!
    I'm a city employee, if she gets a raise I think we should get 1!
    Here I'm not the only one read for yourself!!!!!!
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/Swe...wAllComments=y
    Have you done anything to deserve a raise?? Did you meet or exceed any goals that were laid upon you??

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    I believe we got the AAA bond rating about 6 months ago... making it 6 months into a (currently) year long recession. It makes it even more impressive that she's been able to do this in such a bad national economic climate. Major cities are going 100's of millions and even billions of dollars in the red, yet we have 10% IN THE BANK. That's ing amazing.

    She probably wasn't soley responsible for it, but the fact that it never happened in the entire history of San Antonio until she got here has to say something.

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    Theres a reason that she has a lot of support on the council on an issue where they could simply throw her under the bus and get political points.

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    So they can claim some of her successes as their own...

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    ding ding ding

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    I just recently moved back to SA so I'm not up to speed on everything, but from what I can tell is she is in charge of a 2 billion dollar city budget and has saved the taxpayers a ton of money. So, she probably does deserve a raise but shouldn't be granted the permission to be teaching in Austin, if you're in charge of that much money there isn't any time for moonlighting. If she wants to teach then teach if she wants to be a city manager then be a city manager.

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    shouldn't this be in the politics fourm?
    ...anyways, with the exception of hiring her husband, i have no beef w/her...
    but i still fail to see how she deserves this raise...could you name something besides the AAA bond thing that she has accomplished?

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    A complete restructure of the city government system.

    And the money she saved the city through the bond issue and restructuring is more than 20k a year - WAY more.

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    The thing is, when we initially hired her she was one of the highest paid city managers in the country, we didn't pay her all of that money to be a bad City Manager, that was part of the reasoning behind paying her so much in the first place.

    Another part of the story is that the Mayor heard rumors she was considering going elsewhere. I don't want a City Manager that's going to jump ship the first time another city offers her more money, I want a City Manager that actually cares about this city and its future.

    Also, as the pe ion states, this was put on the agenda at the last minute, most people didn't find out about this until two days before it would be voted on.

    This is from KTSA:

    The Mayor says he would like to organize a citizen's committee to examine Sculley's accomplishments and value to the city before moving forward.
    That's really the way things should have been done but instead the Mayor decided to sneak this on the agenda at the last minute.

    I know it will go through, and maybe it would have gone through some other time, but the way things have been handled has left a bad taste in my mouth.

    One last thing about her pay, she has gotten raises since she's been here.

    At this time last year her salary was 265,000.00, now it's 295,000.00

    I think someone also mentioned that she wasn't the highest paid city manager in the country:

    Sheryl Sculley would become the nation's best-paid city manager under a proposed employment agreement that she completed Monday with the City Council.
    That was a 53% increase versus what she was making in Phoenix, and let's not even get into all of the extras she got as part of that deal.
    Last edited by PM5K; 12-11-2008 at 01:33 PM.

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    The thing is, when we initially hired her she was one of the highest paid city managers in the country, we didn't pay her all of that money to be a bad City Manager, that was part of the reasoning behind paying her so much in the first place.
    Another part of the story is that the Mayor heard rumors she was considering going elsewhere. I don't want a City Manager that's going to jump ship the first time another city offers her more money, I want a City Manager that actually cares about this city and its future.
    Also, as the pe ion states, this was put on the agenda at the last minute, most people didn't find out about this until two days before it would be voted on.

    This is from KTSA:

    The Mayor says he would like to organize a citizen's committee to examine Sculley's accomplishments and value to the city before moving forward.

    That's really the way things should have been done but instead the Mayor decided to sneak this on the agenda at the last minute.

    I know it will go through, and maybe it would have gone through some other time, but the way things have been handled has left a bad taste in my mouth.
    Yep. I believe she was the asst city manage ar PHX, but like you said she is already one of the highest paid in city that has a low cost of living. She has a car, phone and expense account. Why would she need a raise?

    The husband hiring and giving her permission to teach on the side is unbelivable.

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    She has a car, phone and expense account.
    She got a lot more than that, and let's not forget that she's already gotten a 30K dollar raise since she's been here, and I don't even think that includes her health benefits, retirement, etc.

    Here are a few more of the benefits she received:

    The proposed pact would pay Sculley $20,000 in two payments to move her family from Phoenix. It also would include $3,000 for two house-hunting trips and $1,500 a month for up to eight months for rent of temporary living quarters and storage.

    With her husband, Michael Sculley, and son Collin remaining in Phoenix for her son’s last year of high school next year, Sculley would receive $10,000 to travel to Phoenix twice a month over the next 12 months.

    The contract also would provide a $400 monthly car allowance and $70 per month for cell phone bills.
    I believe that's a total of 45K dollars not including the car allowance and cell phone.

    I can certainly understand that she may have saved this city money, but at what point do we draw the line at how much money we are going to throw at her?

    All of this at a time when our country is in a recession, and people are loosing their jobs and homes left and right...

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