Worst scientific scandal in the history…

[101A]

Frankly, I don't care much about the debate. At worst, there is a significant and meaningful debate about whether anthropogenic global warming has occurred or is occurring. Regardless of the ultimate conclusion -- one that I feel certain will not be reached during my lifetime -- it seems wise, to me, to engage in practices that tend to offer less deleterious results for the air, water, and other portions of the environment. I don't know how any of us are truly harmed by acting responsibly in terms of our waste and emissions and at least trying to protect what may or may not be threatened.

That strikes me as true no matter which side ultimately "wins" the debate.

I agree, however extremes on both sides must be avoided.

First, CO2 is NOT a pollutant, and if AGW is NOT occurring, should not be classified as such - toooooo much would fall under the control of the EPA.

[Winehole23]

'Tis all that matters. You know this.

'Til everyone's proven wrong.

The possibility that everyone is wrong cannot be definitively be ruled out.



Then we can start all over again.

Fragment of an agon.

[FromWayDowntown]

I agree, however extremes on both sides must be avoided.

By no means am I proposing that either extreme should prevail.

In fact, what I'm saying is simply that if there are things that I can do in my every day life that might be less harmful to the environment than other practices might be, it strikes me as extremely pragmatic to engage in the less harmful practice, even if it means I lose a miniscule amount of convenience. I'd certainly urge others to do the same.

Like I say, I don't give a damn which side is objectively correct; I don't actually think anyone will truly know the answer to that question for some time.

[101A]

By no means am I proposing that either extreme should prevail.

In fact, what I'm saying is simply that if there are things that I can do in my every day life that might be less harmful to the environment than other practices might be, it strikes me as extremely pragmatic to engage in the less harmful practice, even if it means I lose a miniscule amount of convenience. I'd certainly urge others to do the same.

Like I say, I don't give a damn which side is objectively correct; I don't actually think anyone will truly know the answer to that question for some time.

Props.
Conservation is a good thing. (from a resident right wing nut job who hasn't bought anything but CFL bulbs for 5+ years and (literally), with 5 in the family, living in Pennsylvania, NEVER runs the clothes dryer (not gonna pay for 220 when the air will do the work for free).

[DarkReign]

Props.
Conservation is a good thing. (from a resident right wing nut job who hasn't bought anything but CFL bulbs for 5+ years and (literally), with 5 in the family, living in Pennsylvania, NEVER runs the clothes dryer (not gonna pay for 220 when the air will do the work for free).

Cheap ass, GOP wingnut, freakin' weirdo that you are.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

(not gonna pay for 220 when the air will do the work for free.

right on. i don't wear all my clothes at once so they all don't need to be dried that quickly at once. call me mexican, but i leave more money in my pocket.

[xrayzebra]

look, while you guys argue, there is irrefutable proof that the polar ice caps are melting at an amazing rate never before seen in recorded history.

"For all those worried that the North Pole might melt, consider this: There's been a rapid rebound in the level of global sea ice. Fits in with the recent evidence that if anything these days, the Earth has been cooling."

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/3197

[FromWayDowntown]

"For all those worried that the North Pole might melt, consider this: There's been a rapid rebound in the level of global sea ice. Fits in with the recent evidence that if anything these days, the Earth has been cooling."

http://voices.kansascity.com/node/3197

Well, then screw my concerns about the environment!!! I'm going out to buy a great big SUV that gets about 1 mpg and I'm gonna burn coal in my backyard, just for the of it!!!!

[Wild Cobra]

look, while you guys argue, there is irrefutable proof that the polar ice caps are melting at an amazing rate never before seen in recorded history.

Really?

I thought the Global Sea Ice was near average? For three years between mid 2004 to mid 2007, it was below average. Maybe you should keep in touch with the real news rather than propaganda.

[Wild Cobra]

The 650 number is bogus. Yes, there are many climate scientists who greatly disagree with the man-made global warming hypothesis, but it is clear that a lot of this list is bogus.

People tried to say that long ago as the list that grew to 31,000+ was started. Turned out that people would sign up falsely. By the time the allegations were named, the fake names had already been removed and in the process of being removed.

The left tries to be slick, but were caught on this one. Signing up with bogus names to find names to discount...

Please. How many of the 650 are bogus? My understanding is it's under 1%.

Please. By all means. Give us the bogus names.

[Winehole23]

.The left tries to be slick, but were caught on this one. Signing up with bogus names to find names to discount...

Agents provocateurs!

Monsieur Satan!