ESPN's Stein on trade

[whottt]

Well said Russ...

It's funny...everyone is acting like the Knicks are going to suck now that they dumped Mohammed... OOOOOO?!?!?!?! They sucked with him, Clowns! He is part of the reason that they suck.



What they did was turn him into two number 1 picks(of the kind where players like Beno, Parker, and even Mohammed himself are found) and a proven championship caliber back up PF.


Isiah is not doing that badly...the Knicks were absolute crap when he took over that team...

He was smarter than any Spurfan or Spurs coach about Charlie Ward...Who is laughing at that one?

He is building a team there and Malik is piece of the puzzle, Malik has been around winning and he is going to lead that team on how it's done...Malik is an intelligent hard working guy who brings it every night and knows what it takes to win...and he will help that team if they let him...


We're gonna miss Malik a of a lot more than they are going to miss Mohammed...Archive this ing thread. I want to be able to reference it when all the Malik haters start whining even worse about Mohammed.

Laugh about the Knicks lack of size all you want...then pull your head out and go take a look at the Phoenix Suns.....

If you guys think Shawn Bradley will help them more than Malik will you are deluded.

[goliath]

Bill Walton on trade:

Neil - San Antonio: Bill - San Antonio lost part of its heart when Malik Rose got traded. Was Nazr Mohammed and his expiring contract really worth it?

Bill Walton: (1:58 PM ET ) I think this is a major upgrade for San Antonio, even though Rose is a good player and good person. The Spurs have done their research and were not happy with Rose for various reasons. I think Mohammed is one of my favorite human beings in the league. He is smart, intelligent, etc. He has struggled of late but at the start of the season was playing great and will be great for Duncan, Parker and all these tremendous players. This is a brilliant move by S.A. I have always felt their only weakness was their big guys in support of Duncan were't producing. But Mohammed will be very effective for his new team.

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[whottt]

Walton is a LakerFan

[jalbre6]

I think Mohammed is one of my favorite human beings in the league.

Much like Sam Cassell is one of Walton's favorite space aliens in the league.

[Russ]

My prediction: Mohammed will have a few promising games (ala Chris Mihm with the Lakers) and everybody will be jumping up and down about what a great trade it was.

Then M will fade. Pop will tire of him. Sean Marks will look like an option. Pop will scan the waiver wire. The last date you can pick someone up and have them for the playoffs will become a hot topic.

Mohammed will express interest in becoming the Spurs' player rep for the upcoming CBA negotiations.

Someone will ask Mohammed about the Spurs' le chances and he'll say "I think 'we' have a great chance to come out of the East."

Malik will languish in NY so people will say, "Big deal. What's the difference, anyway."

Then the playoffs will start. . . .

Mohammed will probably do all right. But I'll be surprised if he harrasses some with pure will the way Malik did Shaq in '99 ( le). Or if makes a big dunk over a man-mountain like Malik did in '03 ( le). I'll be surprised if he raises his voice or throws any towels.

In short, I wouldn't expect him to move any mountains.

[jalbre6]

The last date you can pick someone up and have them for the playoffs will become a hot topic.

Every NBA red letter date is a hot topic in here, it seems. I for one think it's a good trade, but we won't know until Nazr hits the court.

I'll also be the first to say Pop and company ed up if Malik starts dropping 30 and 12 nightly as a Knick.

[wildbill2u]

IT just befuzzles the out of me.

It's almost as if NYKs are a wholly-owned subsidiary of the NBA who exist solely to improve other teams.

Isaiah is out to prove he can be a worse GM than anyone the Clippers ever had.

[Useruser666]

I think New York is where bad contracts go to die.

Or the island of misfit contracts. Take your pick.

[wildbill2u]

The deal would be sweeter for the Knicks if the Spurs were actually evaluating the talent and selecting the 1st round draft choices for them in 2005 and 2006.

Isn't one of the draft choices likely to come from Phoenix in another deal made some years ago? I remember somebody owes us a pick and this might be a good year for Phoenix to dump it since it will probably be very low because of their position in the standings.

And of course, our own pick is gonna be 30.

[Frenchise player]

Well said Russ...

It's funny...everyone is acting like the Knicks are going to suck now that they dumped Mohammed... OOOOOO?!?!?!?! They sucked with him, Clowns! He is part of the reason that they suck.



What they did was turn him into two number 1 picks(of the kind where players like Beno, Parker, and even Mohammed himself are found) and a proven championship caliber back up PF.


Isiah is not doing that badly...the Knicks were absolute crap when he took over that team...

He was smarter than any Spurfan or Spurs coach about Charlie Ward...Who is laughing at that one?

He is building a team there and Malik is piece of the puzzle, Malik has been around winning and he is going to lead that team on how it's done...Malik is an intelligent hard working guy who brings it every night and knows what it takes to win...and he will help that team if they let him...


We're gonna miss Malik a of a lot more than they are going to miss Mohammed...Archive this ing thread. I want to be able to reference it when all the Malik haters start whining even worse about Mohammed.

Laugh about the Knicks lack of size all you want...then pull your head out and go take a look at the Phoenix Suns.....

If you guys think Shawn Bradley will help them more than Malik will you are deluded.

Mohamed is not the reason why the Knicks sucked and still suck.
Marbury is a selfish PG who consider himself as the best in the league, and they have the worse roster in the league, with plenty of overpaid players (Hardawey, Houston, Tim Thomas...).
The 28 to 30th draft picks aren't only Parker or Udrih type of players and you don't know what the Spurs would get of them.
As much as you like Malik, you can't deny that he is older than Nazr and he has a longer contract. Furthermore, since his extraordinary 2003 season, he has been more often in the doghouse than on the court.

I apreciate Malik very much as a person and as a player, but considering that he is underrated in the league (to sum up, he is considered as an overpaid and undersized PF), Pop and RC managed to make a very good deal and to bring a quality big man that appears to have Spurs qualities (good person and a very bad free throw shooter).