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now everyone that gave him the benefit of the doubt after the way he left Cleveland can see the light- the guy is an asshole
Mansap? You've been posting over at Jazzfanz, huh?
When Boozer left Cleveland he was considered a good, solid, young PF, who could get you 18 and 8 in the weak east, but not a superstar. Deron ing made him. I can't wait till he loses his good pick and roll point guard and is forced to post up 15 times a night. It'll be great watching his ass get swatted all over the court.
And Millsap is awesome, which is the saving grace in this situation. His defense is far superior and I would've previously said Boozer is the better passer, but Millsap's been putting up assists like a madman. There was some concern before the season about whether Paul would be able to stay out of foul trouble as that's an area where he's had problems in the past, but he's been playing 40 minutes a night and staying on the floor, so whatever worries there were, have been alleviated. I think he's more inclined as a bench player to just come in all energy & effort and that probably had something to do with his foul trouble in those situations. But yeah, Millsap's a ing horse, the complete opposite of Booze.
As an aside, Sloan has been giving a lot of extra-ordinary praise to Millsap the past few games. Like Sloan normally talks about Deron like he was Jesus, but it doesn't even compare to how much he's been pumping up Millsap lately. I mean, you just don't hear this magnitude of praise from Sloan and even though Millsap's been playin' out his skull, it can only be interpreted as a huge and purposeful slight to Boozer. Sloan is so damn cool.
now everyone that gave him the benefit of the doubt after the way he left Cleveland can see the light- the guy is an asshole
Last edited by Thunder Dan; 12-18-2008 at 03:33 PM.
To be honest everybody in Utah knew that deal and Boozer were and are shady as . But then again, what were we supposed to do? We had to make and embrace that deal. At the time we were a young team, rebuilding from the Stockton Malone era. We had just scrapped our asses off in a 41-41 effort of a season. And we had to do something. That something was Deron, Boozer and Okur. And we hit on two of three cylinders and to be honest, Boozer, if nothing us, brought us established, semi-veteran, credibility at a time when we didn't have that from Okur, CJ, Millsap, Brewer or Deron. Even though he was hurt the whole time he was here. The organization just needed a signing of that magnitude to kickstart ourselves. So I don't begrudge him for that. But otherwise, I think a lot of us in Utah always knew what a low bottom piece of he is.
(incidentally, the 03-04 Jazz were a great team to watch. SI picked us to be the worst team ever and we ended up a game out of 8th place at 41-41. We had to scrap every minute of every game, like we were on our last breath, but it was great to watch. Better than now. I'm convinced that it's a far better thing to watch a ty team over-achieve than a good team under-achieve.)
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merry christmas!
Millsap > Boozer, overall.
Particularly since his defensive presence allows you to play Memo at the end of close games.
Well if he does not sign again with Utah, Bienvenidos a Miami
Please, for the love of God, Joe D, sign him. Waive Rasheed and AI. Boozer, McDyess, and Maxiell!
Welcome to Miami
he actually helps the Cavs, because he will fetch more money than Anderson Varajeo so it will bring his price down
Not surprised at all, Boozer has absolutely NO loyalty to ANY team. He is a me-me-me player.
That is pretty much the majority of the players. And I don't blame them per say they have to do whats right for them. After all the teams do whats best for them. Why do we hold players to a different standard?
Because SOME players are total classless s and I'm sure some teams cater to these players all they can and at the end of the day the player stabs the team in the back.
Personally, I really don't think the Jazz care if he walks. They seem to like Milsap better anyway.
Everybody wanted to see him get traded or walk, but he promised not to address his contract until the year was over and now what he's doing is being a about it, mid-season; a season in which he's been hurt on his ass, supposedly day to day for more than month. And now's the time he decides to announce, "I'm getting a raise, regardless." I don't care if he walks, , I've been wanting him to walk, but I do care about what a ing mid-season, d-bag he's being about it.
first off, how many players usually opt out from the last year of their contract?
well, about half of those who have such an option. what's the big deal? did people cry like they do now, whenever this was done by another player?
Baron Davis, Corey Maggette and Elton Brand did it last year, where are all the threads about their betrayals?
however. Boozer is not stupid. he hits the market when he will be clearly the #1 FA. yes, not so many teams will have cap space, but he just need one team, right?
one team will be in position (Detroit) and the other just needs one salary dump move (Miami) and don't be surprised if also Chicago makes such a move.
all this teams are more interesting for a player in the long run than the Jazz.
the fact that he announced his opting out right now could also be interpreted as a fair call by him. so the Jazz get the chance to use him for a trade and get something back. what if he just plays the season and in June he opts out and leaves?
it's no secrete that the Heat will be the most interested team and it's no secrete that Boozer wants to player there. (where he lives during summer, works out and is good friend with Wade)
the Heat would need a salary dump move anyhow (likely Haslem), so why not trade Boozer there (Heat get his rights and can offer more than the free agent market) for a package like Haslem plus a young talent (Cook?) plus a filler (Wright). the Heat would do this, they urgently want to persuade Wade to sign an extension in 2009 and such a move of course would help.
Boozer is good but is overrated... I laugh at people who compare D-Will/Booz to Stockon/Malone
I love the idea of Haslem, Cook, and Wright for Boozer. Start Millsap and bring Haslem off the bench. We save 10 mil a year by keeping Millsap and signing him to a long term contract. We might be a little overloaded at the 2/3 with Cook and Wright but Almond will be gone next year and my guess is we'd just dump Wright. Plus Harpring comes off the books next season.
Haslem would be exactly what we need. A fairly decent backup PF that can take Millsap's spot on the bench. This trade would be perfect for us. We let Millsap take over, gain a nice backup to replace him on the bench, and save money in the long run so we can sign Millsap, Okur, and possibly Korver. Then Harpring and his 6 mil will be gone just in time to sign our top draft pick in 2010 from New York.
most don't openly talk about it in December- they usually try to stay classy and not talk about money and focus on winning basketball games. That is the difference with Boozer- he doesn't give a about winning
exactly. there is nothing wrong with opting out, otherwise it wouldn't be in the contract. but don't boast about planning to opt out and wanting more money when the season is only a fourth of the way finished. it would be one thing if Boozer was on a bull team, but the Jazz are playoff team. its disrespectful to ownership who is paying him, his teammates, and the fans. its athletes like him that are everything that is wrong with pro sports today.
I'll never understand why players address this sort of thing during the season. Even if they are asked about it. It's nothing but a distraction. This guy just seems to be disingenuous. What happened to his "wanted to follow in the footsteps of Karl Malone" and wanting to continue the foundation of success that Stockton and Malone started? I knew he was full of when he bolted on the Cavs. I'm just sorry the Jazz have to put up with his antics. Very odd coming from someone who was a bench-warmer on the Olympic team.
not only is it during the season, but the Jazz are struggling as it is AND Boozer doesn't even play because he is hurt
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