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Tim is always a candidate for MVP as long as he is healthy and in his prime years.
I am not saying duncan is not a factor
I am just not being a homer and saying duncan should win the mvp which he should not
Tim is always a candidate for MVP as long as he is healthy and in his prime years.
Duncan gets a strong example of size not being everything playing right beside him every day in practice. Duncan consitently works men that are bigger than him.
Mohammed aint that great.
You are right that Duncan is smart(althought the Kidd thing was questionable)...Duncan knows winners...Duncan was the guy wanted Jack...Duncan was the guy that called for Kerr...Malik Rose is a winner and Duncan knows it. Duncan is smart enough to know that a simplistic bigger is better credo is probably a bad one to have.
How did this go from being a thread on Spurs players' reaction to a question of how much power Timmy has?
We need more player reactions Missmyzte...what do you think Horry's reaction is?
Back to the reactions, Manu just said "Malik will live"
Something overlooked here the last day and a half.
oh yeah? I thought u had duncan's reaction
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..i am sorry to read that from you Ducks.
MVP consideration depends on a lot of things...Stats or Eff. rating or how valuable he is on his team and Tim is definitely one of them.
Steve Nash's is being considered but he ONLY ave.16 ppg but have 11 assts.
Tim ranks 2nd in blocks, 3rd in rbds.despite hip/ankle/knee/playing less minutes.
did manu really say that? That's news, I knew he was an arrogant prick.
Arrogant prick? Did it ever occur to you that Spurs players always kid around, and that wouldn't stop just because one of them got traded? That Manu would be sending a message to Malik "We're OK, and you'll be OK too"? Or are you just too wrapped up in your poultice of self-pity?
Ouch.poultice
That was just part of what Manu said.
He said something to the effect of "he was a great guy, we're all gonna miss him, he has been a part of this team for a long time. But we also realize it is a business, and Malik will live, he'll be alright. We're professionals and we need to put this behind us and focus on going and winning the championship."
Something like that.
well that sounds a lot better, as for the ouch I am going to assume it is from the exstatic post chump, but he is on my ignore list so whatever he said doesnt bother me in the least.
That's not really ignoring it then.
It was pretty funny though.
Then I won't waste anymore time on you.
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Yeah I just posted the "he'll live" part the first time, because it reminded me of something one of the guys at work said today. Said that Spurs fans were acting like someone died today, when reality is Rose will still be friends with everyone, will still be around in the off-season doing stuff in the community, will get more playing time in NY than he could ever could hope to get on the Spurs (not to mention way more than his fans could hope to see him get in SA), and oh yeah he's getting $30 million along the way.
Robinson to duncan, you need to chill the out.
For those of us who don't hope to earn $30 in our lifetimes, that might sound good enough. However, what nobody here has seemed to address is the fact that the Spurs organization wanted to get rid of Malik so badly that they threw in two first-round picks. That, to me, is the ultimate diss!
"You hate me so much that you're willing to jeopardize your future to get me off your team?"
What do you suppose the other Spurs feel when that happens? Malik came off the bench on numerous occasions to help us to a win. Who knows what's going to happen down the line? We might really need to replace somebody through the draft. God forbid something happens to one or more of our starters.
As for T. Duncan not having much clout anymore (with allusions to his diminished minutes), what's that about? It's almost a deliberate attempt on the part of Pop to diminish Tim's clout. I am reluctantly returning to my opinion of Pop from a few years ago - a control freak, rather than the cool, nice guy I have grudgingly begun to think of him as.
But one thing galls me totally - and that is Pop whining to the press about how hard this was. Bull! Nothing's forced on you when you're in control.
We have a big problem here in San Antonio: the fans - the loyal fans, not the show-off fans who buy boxes and high-priced seats and never show up - fall in love with the members of our team. We embrace them as though they were members of our own family. We worry about their health, their personal lives, whether or not they're getting their fair shake from the organization.
We really start to think of ourselves as the force that keeps the Spurs playing; we stupidly think our season tickets, frequent mid-range-price tickets, or regularly purchased $32 tickets are the glue. We are so stupid!!!!! We mean nothing in the scheme of things. The organization pays us lip service, offering pla udes about our loyalty that leads us to believe we're important.
It's a business, damn it! That's what the Spurs players were telling us today. The bean counters are in charge of our emotions.
Why are you putting words in the mouth of Tim/Pop? YOu don't know what Tim was thinking on this one, so don't speculate.
As for the draft picks, people are getting way too upset about two picks that will probably be 29 and 30 in two different drafts.
We have our first rounder coming in this year in Scola. You could also say LJIII will be seeings he has been out all year long.
We've still got that other pick this year, I don't think we're gonna get that much help sitting at 29 and 30 in the first round.
Take a look at the future of this team and contract length:
Duncan 2010
Ginobili 2010
Parker 2010
Rasho 2009
Beno 2009
Barry 2008
Bowen 2007 (team option through 2008, but I suspect it will be time for BB to hang it up in 2007)
Nazr 2006
You've got 6 guys locked up for basically the next 4 years (counting this year).
On top of that you're going to have Devin Brown (hopefully) inking a long term deal this year, and Scola coming in. I'm going to give Nazr the benefit of the doubt and say he pans out like I think he will, the Spurs use his bird rights to ink him to a deal through 2010 as well.
There's your core for the rest of the Tim Duncan era.
Parker/Beno
Manu/Barry
Bowen/Brown
Duncan/Scola
Nazr/Rasho
The only conceivable hole on this squad for the next two years is not having a long athletic three, and you could maybe kick in another outside shooter. So for the next 4-5 years on this team, you're looking to find a long three, then add journeymen league minimum types (vet center, outside shooter).
Looking at a long three, we've got Linton Johnson out there on the IL. The front office speaks highly of his potential. You've got Sanikidze over in Europe.
Then the Spurs have two draft picks this draft (first, second), and a second rounder next summer. So if you're worried about draft picks, we've got three cracks at finding a long three assuming the two we've already got rights to (Sanikidze, Linton) don't pan out.
Show me where in there I should be upset about losing two guaranteed contracts for bottom of first round talent.
Too many people are reacting out of emotion to this trade, and not looking at the big picture, which the Spurs front office most decidedly is. This team is set for the rest of Tim Duncan's prime after getting Scola and Devin in this summer, and probably hammering out a new deal with Nazr next summer.
We don't need two extra first rounders that would more than likely be IL fodder on this squad.
"As long as you're in this league playing basketball, that's a plus. If you get traded you get traded, but I'd be a little upset if I got traded from this team to somebody like New Orleans. That's the only time you really get upset, because if you're on a team that has a chance to win the championship and you go to a team that doesn't, it's a little heartbreaking." -- Robert Horry
"It's very difficult because you're losing someone you're close to," Spurs forward Bruce Bowen said. "When someone goes, there's a period of mourning. But in this business you can't mourn too long."
"It's sort of like being in love with one woman for numerous years and she tells you she had to go away because of something she needs to work out," Bowen said. "You're hurt, but you don't hate her. She didn't leave because she cheated you. She just had to work some things out that you couldn't control."
"We are missing a great guy, someone who was really enjoyable to share the locker room with," guard Manu Ginobili said. "But we just have to trust Pop and R.C. that this is the best thing for the franchise. Now we have to welcome Nazr to our home."
"I was surprised because once Karl Malone said he was retiring, I thought that was it," Ginobili said. "I thought this was going to be the team we used to finish the season."
"We just have to welcome Nazr now and go for the ring," Ginobili said. "That's still the only goal."
FYI, there's some video of Bowen/Manu/Pop's reaction at today's practice up on SpursZONE. Just look in the sidebar.
This will affect the team, rose being traded after 8 years will refresh the fact, that even if you do all to help the team, when someday you dont, you will be gone. Its business over all other things, its normal, but it makes you think harder if you are a player. This will break the team chemistry for sure.
Good thing is that there is still lots of time before playoffs for all this to settle down - hopefully
"This will break the team chemistry for sure."
For sure, that's BS.
well tp called duncan cheap because after he dunked it duncan hit that three
does that mean he is a prick?
in tim's duncan era the spurs kepted 2 first round draft picks
I do not think they ruined their future
they have their core locked up
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