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    There's two scenarios why Spurs signed him:
    1) They were paranoid a team would sign him and steal his rights, so they signed him to keep his rights and more than likely will send him back down.
    2) Ime or/and another wing could be on their way out via trade.

    I see 1. as the most realistic

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    Nice to see the Spurs give him a chance after the hard work with the Toros.

    Strange though since there isn't any playing time available. Ginobli, Mason, Finley, and Bowen have been playing well and will eat up near or all the minutes.. Udoka is the only odd man out at the moment.
    Have you seen how many minutes Finley is getting? He is averaging 28 and there have been many games this season where has played over 30. I think it would be better for us in the long run if he stays in th low 20's.

    The big benefit that Hariston brings is that he is the only 2/3 we have not named Manu that will attack the rim. Having another player like this can only help during our offensive droughts.

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    Good thoughts in this thread. That's why I love this board.

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    I don't know if Hairston will be one day a solid NBA player but I surely like that Spurs are trying to fill their last roster spot with a young athletic swingman.

    I find the timing of this signing quite interesting. Contract become guaranteed in about 2 weeks. Do Spurs want to test him during these two weeks or have they still decided that they want to keep him locked for the year ?
    Doesn't Hairston have to be in uniform at least one night before the Spurs can re-assign him?

    I think Pop will do his favorite move of putting him in the game in the first half just to see what he can bring and for a reward. Pop said there would be no minutes for Hairston but I think that he'll find some over the next few weeks . . .

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    FWIW: I'd simply echo the thoughts of TimVP and Bruno, who seems to have the bases covered.

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    Doesn't Hairston have to be in uniform at least one night before the Spurs can re-assign him?

    I think Pop will do his favorite move of putting him in the game in the first half just to see what he can bring and for a reward. Pop said there would be no minutes for Hairston but I think that he'll find some over the next few weeks . . .
    I have never heard about a rule saying that the player has to be on the active roster before being send down.

    Toros next game is on Friday. Even if Pop want to send him down for the whole year (like they did with James White and Ian), he should stay with Spurs for today's and tomorrow's game.

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    Doesn't Hairston have to be in uniform at least one night before the Spurs can re-assign him?

    I think Pop will do his favorite move of putting him in the game in the first half just to see what he can bring and for a reward. Pop said there would be no minutes for Hairston but I think that he'll find some over the next few weeks . . .
    More specifically, at the start of the 2nd quarter. The Spurs play a handful of teams whom they could bury early in the next 10 days---that might open up minutes for Hairston in the 4th.

    But you know, I think this is simply the last phase of his interview. Pop gets another up close look, if Hairston does well in practice, they'll keep him on contract and he'll finish the season in Austin. My 2 cents.

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    I wonder if this signals the end of Udoka

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    I don't know if Hairston will be one day a solid NBA player but I surely like that Spurs are trying to fill their last roster spot with a young athletic swingman.

    I find the timing of this signing quite interesting. Contract become guaranteed in about 2 weeks. Do Spurs want to test him during these two weeks or have they still decided that they want to keep him locked for the year ?
    If I had to guess I would say its a mixture of the potential they see in him for the future and the possibility of Udoka not rediscovering his form. A team who sustained an injury or two in the back court could easily sign him away, so we probably decided to secure him for insurance now/potential future.

    Maybe it will be good for Udoka to see someone looking over his shoulder...

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    Hairston did a number of good things in Austin, at least that impressed me. He started becoming more of a perimeter player, but he relied less heavily on 3s and got to the line more than in college, he seems to have played within the offense, he was clutch, he rebounded fairly well...
    His TOs and foul rate were high, but we'll see if that has a carry-over effect.

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    yes he will get court time and yes he will get mostly Udoka's minutes

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    I wonder if this signals the end of Udoka
    I think Udoka is pretty safe. Hairston is a similar player but Udoka has a year in the system and playoff experience. Most importantly, Pop seems to trust him no matter how bad he plays so I don't see him losing his spot in the mix to Hairston. I see Hairston as a longer term investment and this transaction as more of a precaution in case another team wanted to swoop in and sign him.

    Give him some NBA action, send him back to Austin for the rest of the year and then have him play in summer league to gauge his improvement.

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    It's probably a good idea to sign him now before every scout in the league has a chance to look at him during the MLK showcase.
    The big benefit that Hariston brings is that he is the only 2/3 we have not named Manu that will attack the rim.
    True enough. Hairston started out being too aggressive with his drives, not passing enough and not talking enough outside shots to mix things up. He has improved quite a bit with both over his 11-game stint with the Toros.

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    Malik Hairston the new Spurs saviour!!!

    Hahahahahahahaha

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    Cool. If nothing else, this protects his rights. I'm guessing Pop will give him some NBA action and then he'll be sent down to Austin for the rest of the season.

    Best case scenario is that he shines on the NBA level to the point where the Spurs can't send him down.

    That and makes Ime a trade comodity.

    A team like Charlotte would probobly like him and his veteran presence.

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    That and makes Ime a trade comodity.

    A team like Charlotte would probobly like him and his veteran presence.
    for a second round pick?

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    If Spurs want to try a prospect big like Sims, I think that they will waive Tolliver before.
    That's probably true. If the Spurs don't think Tolliver can cut at as the team's fifth (actually sixth if Mahinmi counts) big then the Spurs should let him go. That's not exactly a demanding role on this team.

    But I think Tolliver sticks. Having Bonner insurance is even more important now that Bonner has a big role.

    Bringing in a young big from Austin wouldn't really work because the defense is so complicated for a big that he wouldn't learn it in time to help this season. Unless the Spurs have written off Mahinmi for the season, it makes more sense to me to use that 15th spot on a wing who has a chance to help if needed. Hairston makes extra sense because he can play some small ball power forward if needed.

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    That and makes Ime a trade comodity.

    A team like Charlotte would probobly like him and his veteran presence.
    Trade your Brains....

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    That's probably true. If the Spurs don't think Tolliver can cut at as the team's fifth (actually sixth if Mahinmi counts) big then the Spurs should let him go. That's not exactly a demanding role on this team.

    But I think Tolliver sticks. Having Bonner insurance is even more important now that Bonner has a big role.

    Bringing in a young big from Austin wouldn't really work because the defense is so complicated for a big that he wouldn't learn it in time to help this season. Unless the Spurs have written off Mahinmi for the season, it makes more sense to me to use that 15th spot on a wing who has a chance to help if needed. Hairston makes extra sense because he can play some small ball power forward if needed.
    Agreed, outside of a trade, I think the the bigs aren't going to change, nor do I think they should, I don't see any glaring huge holes with the bigs rotation when healthy.

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    I think Udoka is pretty safe. Hairston is a similar player but Udoka has a year in the system and playoff experience.
    Agree, if Spurs wanted to sign someone to take Udoka's spot, they would have signed a player with more experience like Ronald Dupree, Erik Daniels or Bobby Jones.
    However, this signing, providing Hairston sticks with the team, lowered the odd of Spurs re-signing Udoka next summer.

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    for a second round pick?
    We have a few second round picks, I wouldn't mind Hollins.

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    Udoka's contract is just over 1 mil/year and could be very valuable to make numbers match up in the event of a trade-- I've tried a few on the espn trade machine and there have been a couple of times when that extra 1 mil was needed to make the deal possible.

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    Way cool. Exactly what I was hoping for. I was concerned that another team would swoop in a sign him. I'm sure the added visibility of Hairston making D-League POW had something to do with this decision.

    Whatever the case, this signals that Hairston is, at least, in the Spurs plans. A young, athletic, defensive-minded, swingman is exactly what this team needs. They need to find out whether this kid can play at this level. Having another option when the Spurs go small, will be very intriguing.

    Hopefully, Pop will find minutes for him over the next 2-3 games (Sacto, Minny and PHX). Even if he does eventually get sent back to Austin at some point, at least his rights are now protected and he can continue to develop.

    Excellent move.

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    So now Hairston gets to score for the Toros and say I'm really a Spur.
    He's number 6 on the depth chart for SG/SF. Nice for the fluff but it won't add up to even one win difference. I would have rather seen Mutombo who has the ability to give you something that might change 2-3 games to the win side.

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    So now Hairston gets to score for the Toros and say I'm really a Spur.
    He's number 6 on the depth chart for SG/SF. Nice for the fluff but it won't add up to even one win difference. I would have rather seen Mutombo who has the ability to give you something that might change 2-3 games to the win side.
    Mutombo is old and washed up.

    You people want to get younger, they do that, then you want them to get older again.

    make up your damn minds

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