Sjax has been battling a hand injury all year which hasn't helped his fg%
He's never been a great shooter regardless of who he has around him. Last year was just the second time in his career that he's even hit 35% of his 3s.
I wouldn't mind him if we only had to give up spare parts, but there's no way I'd even dream of trading Manu for him - that would be a terrible trade.
Name one thing that Jax does better than Manu.
Shoot guns
Hey 50cent Did you check Jackson numbers before making the stupid proposition of trading Manu for him straight up?
He's averaging just 19 pts 4.5 rbds and 5.9 assts in 40 min and look at his shooting% FG 38% 3PT 28% and he's coming off a hand injury. I know you want to get rid of Manu but try to look for something better
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well that pretty much ended this argument
You'd think it would but it more than likely won't.
Spurs fans have such a hard on for Manu that they are content just to fade into oblivion and mediocrity as Manu's body continues to break down. Spurs fans wouldn't want to trade a 43 year old Manu for a 22 year old Kobe Bryant.
And please don't get me wrong. I love Manu and am thankful for everything he has done for the Spurs.
I'm just not irrational to think he is some good luck charm that is going to bring the Spurs more Championships. We already saw last year that a 75% Manu isn't good enough to win. We need a 100% Manu and I just don't think we are going to see Manu at 100% very much for the rest of his career.
I really hope I'm wrong because I do think it is unlikely that we ever move him while he still has some value.
You are not suggesting that kind of trade you're proposing to trade a 31 years old hall of famer for a 30 years old wannabe with at ude issues
Last edited by DAF86; 12-27-2008 at 03:46 PM.
no
Manu is the heart of our team down the stretch
get your head out of your ass dude.
Both of these trade proposals are bad.
The most idiotic, and which should be cause for an outright shunning, is the assertion that the Spurs should trade Manu for Jackson.
Are you f'ing kidding me?
Manu Ginobili takes his turn carrying this team on occasion. He is a stone killer at the end of games when it's on the line, and I don't mean just at the offensive end -- his game changing plays on defense are legendary. He is way, way more versatile than Jackson and has lots more junk in his game. He is a much better shooter. He is a much, MUCH better free thrower. He is an amazing passer. And, he is all, all about the team, never about himself. He never complains about the role he's assigned, he goes after it like a rabid dog, because he wants to win that bad.
Look, Jackson is a good player. But he is nowhere near what Manu brings to the table for the Spurs.
Then, you want to, what, trade Finley AND Mahinmi for Jackson? You want to trade a solid, dependable starter PLUS our best young big-man prospect for someone who's at best at the top of his career and is probably on the way down? Plus you'd throw in our 3rd backup PG AND a dependable defensive bench player (Udoka)? And give up expiring contracts for a huge financial commitment for several years? You'd make the team EXTREMELY thin, toss away the future (both financially and prospect-wise), and mess up our salary cap plans.
Really bad ideas.
You don't seem to understand... Manu for SJax is at best a lateral move. What we need to match up better against the Celtics and the Lakers is a better big next to Duncan...
This FO already shipped a guy loved in the community and with a lot of heart who won it all as a Spur (Malik Rose). So I would guess they know something about Manu that you don't, because I really don't see them trading him anytime soon.
If you guys are going to criticize the trade, at least read the proposal first. It's not Jax straight up for Manu, like a few posters have said-- it's Jax and Anthony Randolph, who will very likely become a very good player in the next couple of years. I'm not in favor of this trade, but people get so eager to criticize in these forums that they don't even read the posts completely.
And there is one thing I think Jax could definitely do better than Manu: defend bigs like Dirk, David West, and Pau Gasol in the playoffs.
In the end why does it matter when this has approximately 0% chance of happening?
Dude darn near singlehandidly took down the Mavericks in 07, and singlehandidly took down the Celtics last night.
WTF.
Pau Gasol!?!?
HUH!?
Because this is a basketball forum called spurstalk-- the whole point of it is to discuss basketball, and it would be a better environment if people weren't more eager to call other people names than they were to actually have an intelligent basketball debate.
Baron Davis and Jason Richardson disagree with you.
Re-read the le of this thread my friend.
Yeah, Pau Gasol. You have some thoughts on the topic?
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