Race to the MVP (nba.com)

[T Park]

I didn't think Spurfan would get so pissy about something as trivial as this.

I didn't think Mav fan would stick thier nose into a subject that as usual, has no relevance to them.

[dirk4mvp]

Says who? You?

[Findog]

it's not proper to estimate a roster just with his stats. TD is doing more that what his pts and rebs has shown. tmac was the scoring leader in this league, but no one had ever considerd him as mvp, even though he won two scoring chapions in a row and his stats looked pretty nice. Dirk won 06-07's mvp but he was not the most pretty guy in stats, but his team was. That's regular season MVP but the spurs are reluctant to put off their nest agg until the playoffs begin. Dirk won that MVP and led his team to a 4-2 lost to warriors who were ranked 8th that season, but spurs won the championship and TP became Finals' mvp. Spurs don't care who wins regular season's mvp, those teams have to care it because their chances to compete in the finals are very slim.

English isn't your first language, is it?

Can anybody parse this AT ALL?

[Findog]

Says who? You?

You called it in the JET/Ice thread. T Park steps up to the plate and shows us a little butthurt.

[Findog]

I didn't think Mav fan would stick thier nose into a subject that as usual, has no relevance to them.

I thought you guys didn't care about awards or individual honors, since your team "plays the right way" and focuses on team honors "when it counts."

Since when do you ing care who wins the MVP award?

[dirk4mvp]

You called it in the JET/Ice thread. T Park steps up to the plate and shows us a little butthurt.

It's like clockwork. As successful as the Spurs have been, you'd think they wouldn't give a .

[Findog]

BTW, this award almost always goes to the best player on the team that finishes with the best record in the regular season. Who cares?

[peskypesky]

BTW, this award almost always goes to the best player on the team that finishes with the best record in the regular season. Who cares?

Is that really true? Methinks it's not.

[Brutalis]

If the spurs go 71 11 (which will never happen of Course), a 21/11 tim is a lock for mvp. As for tp, he is not a top 20 player right now?? Then name 20 more valuable players....

I disagree. The league has snubbed Duncan for DPOY (not to mention Bowen) enough times that I am not gullible as I used to be. It's a popularity contest, and the Spurs record and Tim's average will not make a lick of difference in him getting the MVP award.

Kobe
LeBron
Duncan
Wade
Melo
Howard
Bosh
Paul
Arenas
Nash
Pierce
Garnett
Nowitzki
Jefferson

There's 14 that are in no question a BETTER PLAYER than Parker.

Roy
Harris
Durant
Granger
J.Johnson
Amare

those 6 I don't think are better players, but stats are showing me otherwise.

So actually Parker is right at 20, barely. I'm not trying to hate on my boy TP9, but I do not agree with folks overrating TP9. And I don't mean to start anything truly, but I feel the Spurs think Manu is even better than TP. When the game is on the line is it Manu or TP? And that's all I need to know, always TD or Manu.

Fail safe however. TP is going to get nothing but better. Very few in the kingdom of Kobe, KG, TMac, and LeBron to name a few that started this league so young and turned out so good.. ask yourself who has the most experience? Kobe of course, but then who? Yep, Tony, and he happens to be young still even.

[Brutalis]

Random Thought:

Duncan wouldn't, but would be a masterful teacher. His knowledge and wisdom as a coach would be awesome. Parker like I said above, and by the time he retires should be a book of knowledge and experience. I hope one of our Spurs hang around and coach some day.

x Ice
x DRob
x Tim (might as well)

? Manu
? Tony

MG will go home, TP will work in Hollywood with Eva probably.

[Juanobili]

Lebron has all the hype, the stats, the wins..there's no way he doesn't get it..

[Brazil]

I disagree. The league has snubbed Duncan for DPOY (not to mention Bowen) enough times that I am not gullible as I used to be. It's a popularity contest, and the Spurs record and Tim's average will not make a lick of difference in him getting the MVP award.

Kobe
LeBron
Duncan
Wade
Melo
Howard
Bosh
Paul
Arenas
Nash
Pierce
Garnett
Nowitzki
Jefferson

There's 14 that are in no question a BETTER PLAYER than Parker.

Roy
Harris
Durant
Granger
J.Johnson
Amare

those 6 I don't think are better players, but stats are showing me otherwise.

So actually Parker is right at 20, barely. I'm not trying to hate on my boy TP9, but I do not agree with folks overrating TP9. And I don't mean to start anything truly, but I feel the Spurs think Manu is even better than TP. When the game is on the line is it Manu or TP? And that's all I need to know, always TD or Manu.

Fail safe however. TP is going to get nothing but better. Very few in the kingdom of Kobe, KG, TMac, and LeBron to name a few that started this league so young and turned out so good.. ask yourself who has the most experience? Kobe of course, but then who? Yep, Tony, and he happens to be young still even.

I'm not going to discuss with you everybody has an opinion, I just don't understand why you consider nash and arenas > TP.

[romain.star]

I disagree. The league has snubbed Duncan for DPOY (not to mention Bowen) enough times that I am not gullible as I used to be. It's a popularity contest, and the Spurs record and Tim's average will not make a lick of difference in him getting the MVP award.

Kobe
LeBron
Duncan
Wade
Melo
Howard
Bosh
Paul
Arenas
Nash
Pierce
Garnett
Nowitzki
Jefferson

There's 14 that are in no question a BETTER PLAYER than Parker.

Roy
Harris
Durant
Granger
J.Johnson
Amare

those 6 I don't think are better players, but stats are showing me otherwise.

So actually Parker is right at 20, barely. I'm not trying to hate on my boy TP9, but I do not agree with folks overrating TP9. And I don't mean to start anything truly, but I feel the Spurs think Manu is even better than TP. When the game is on the line is it Manu or TP? And that's all I need to know, always TD or Manu.

Fail safe however. TP is going to get nothing but better. Very few in the kingdom of Kobe, KG, TMac, and LeBron to name a few that started this league so young and turned out so good.. ask yourself who has the most experience? Kobe of course, but then who? Yep, Tony, and he happens to be young still even.

IMO this season, TP has been more valuable than Durant, Granger, Nash, Arenas and Jefferson... as for Harris, it's close

Being a great manu fan too, i don't want to start a new TP vs Manu war so i will not say anything about your statement on Manu being even better than TP this season...

[mathbzh]

...
Arenas

Arenas played how many minutes this season?

Nash

THIS year Parker is clearly better than Nash

...

There's 14 that are in no question a BETTER PLAYER than Parker.


Roy
Harris
Durant
Granger
J.Johnson
Amare
....

those 6 I don't think are better players, but stats are showing me otherwise.

Which stats? Because according to Hollinger's Efficiency Rating Parker is better than Durant, Granger, JJ and Amare.

Moreover, in a MVP race you must play for a winning team (so, no Bosh, Jefferson, Granger, Durant, Harris).

I don't think Parker is a MVP candidate but he is without discussion in the top 20.

[mathbzh]

When the game is on the line is it Manu or TP? And that's all I need to know, always TD or Manu.

This is not the case anymore.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol tp candidate for mvp? hahahaha lame

look at billups when he was with the pistons, posting up the same numbers as parker is doing now, and his teams have won 50+ games, but he was never considered a mvp candidate....thats a shame though, i thought he was good to be given some consideration when he was still with the pistons.

u know the mvp is joke now when nash wins b2b mvps and finishes 2nd the year dirk won his....

[Brazil]

lol tp candidate for mvp? hahahaha lame

look at billups when he was with the pistons, posting up the same numbers as parker is doing now, and his teams have won 50+ games, but he was never considered a mvp candidate....thats a shame though, i thought he was good to be given some consideration when he was still with the pistons.

u know the mvp is joke now when nash wins b2b mvps and finishes 2nd the year dirk won his....

nobody is saying that TP is a candidate for the MVP, we are just saying TP deserves to be in the top 20 or top 15 ahead guys like nash, arenas, granger etc...

[mathbzh]

Billups should receive some consideration this year.

[romain.star]

ok here is my mvp ranking so far:

1. James
2. Bryant
3. Wade
4. Paul
5. Duncan
6. Howard
7. Garnett
8. Nowitzki
9. Pierce
10. Bosh
11. Roy
12. Johnson
13. Harris
14. Parker
15. Billups
16. Anthony
17. Ming
18. Gasol
19. Nash
20. Granger

others: A. Jefferson, A. Stoudemire, K. Durant, M. Camby, P. Millsap