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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    I agree. What do you think of the concept of having less school districts?
    Seems to me like a lot of money could be better spent than paying these superintendents a huge salary. It is a huge salary to me anyways.

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    "It is a huge salary to me anyways.".........................................You are correct Joe! It is,

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Ok, 46k is a lot. But that tune changes when you factor in the amount of work each week. A forty hour work week? YEAH FREAKING RIGHT!

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    most teachers don't start out at 46,000 though...

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    so, now only 23yrs experience gets you 46k in the northside... imagine what it is on the southside.

    2004-2005 NORTHSIDE SALARY *
    Classroom Teacher, Librarian & Nurse Schedule

    YEARS BACHELOR'S MASTER'S
    EXPERIENCE DEGREE DEGREE

    0 35,020 36,050
    1 35,120 36,150
    2 35,220 36,250
    3 35,320 36,350
    4 35,420 36,450
    5 35,556 36,622
    6 35,968 37,034
    7 36,452 37,518
    8 36,972 38,059
    9 37,514 38,601
    10 38,059 39,145
    11 38,976 40,074
    12 39,568 40,623
    13 40,125 41,172
    14 40,877 41,922
    15 41,371 42,474
    16 41,922 43,026
    17 42,475 43,760
    18 43,026 44,570
    19 43,787 45,462
    20 44,341 46,420
    21 45,327 47,804
    22 45,978 48,489
    23 46,671 49,177
    24 47,605 50,108
    25 48,356 50,802
    26 49,110 51,819
    27 49,740 52,509
    28 49,740 53,612
    29 50,588 54,684
    30 51,367 55,821
    31 52,183 56,889
    32 53,002 57,921
    33+ 54,028 59,051

    NOTES: *This schedule is for classroom teachers, librarians, and nurses for the 2004-2005
    school year.
    *Scheduled base salaries for teachers, librarians and nurses are for 187 days.
    *To compute the salary for a classroom teacher on the career ladder or the
    Teacher Initiative Reward Program (TIRP):
    --Add $1,500 to the scheduled salary for Level II
    --Add $3,000 to the scheduled salary for Level III
    *To compute the salary for a librarian employed prior to the 1996-97 school year,
    add $1,500 to the scheduled salary.
    *Teachers and librarians with a doctorate degree add $1,400 to the Master's Degree
    Schedule (must have a Master's Degree).

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    Northside teachers are generally paid better than other teachers, correct?

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    Most teachers that I've spoken to did not get into the profession for the money, but because they wanted to be teachers. Don't they know what they are getting into before they take the job? As teachers shouldn't they "learn" about the profession before they get into it and then about the long hours and pay!?

    They can apply at Toyota too you know.

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    Most teachers that I've spoken to did not get into the profession for the money, but because they wanted to be teachers. Don't they know what they are getting into before they take the job? As teachers shouldn't they "learn" about the profession before they get into it and then about the long hours and pay!?

    They can apply at Toyota too you know.
    That is a very stupid comment to make.

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    i know 3 teachers very well and they teach in 2 teach in the same isd and one in another isd. all three have less than 5 years teaching experience and all threee pull in at least 45k.

    and all three do not work more than 40 classroom hours.

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    Classroom hours don't mean jack . How many other professions are there that have to take work home on a nightly basis?

    And their salaries are above average then.

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    let me say it again. i didnt say it right the first time. they dont give out homework, they tell the kids to do it in class then they give out tests and grade them during their conferance periods.

    its not an easy job but its not like being a doctor or something. no owork is taken home. extra hours are however put on the practice fields tho. long practices= good teams.

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    [QUOTE=JohnnyMarzetti]
    Most teachers that I've spoken to did not get into the profession for the money, but because they wanted to be teachers. Don't they know what they are getting into before they take the job? As teachers shouldn't they "learn" about the profession before they get into it and then about the long hours and pay!?

    They can apply at Toyota too you know.[?QUOTE]

    That is a very stupid comment to make.
    Why? Because they chose to be teachers and now can't handle it? I have respect for teachers but the have the option to find another profession just as much as the next person. Do they not?

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    Why? Because they chose to be teachers and now can't handle it? I have respect for teachers but the have the option to find another profession just as much as the next person. Do they not?
    So a teachers job is just like anyone else's? And in no other perfession should an employee expect a raise? You sure have a funny way of stating your so called "respect" for teachers. I guess they should tell every young person that wants to be a teacher to forget it, because they can forget about ever getting a raise or being paid for what should be considered one of the most important jobs in the world. Teachers' salaries are pitiful compared to many other careers in the US. So for teaching the youth of America how to become the leaders, doctors, lawyers, and professionals of the future, educators should just take poor salary and shut their traps about it? Pffft!

    let me say it again. i didnt say it right the first time. they dont give out homework, they tell the kids to do it in class then they give out tests and grade them during their conferance periods.

    its not an easy job but its not like being a doctor or something. no owork is taken home. extra hours are however put on the practice fields tho. long practices= good teams.
    I don't know what grade level they teach, or where they teach, but I do not consider that the rule when it comes to out of classroom work for educators.

    You are right when you say teaching is not like being a doctor or a lawyer. Teaching is more about guiding a young person into becoming a lawyer or a doctor. Teaching is pushing a child to succeed and to develop them to their full potential. If you don't have teachers that want to teach, they will be processing kids like orders in a fast food drive-thru.

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    school is gay, all that matters is how the kids do on the field.j/p

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    Northside teachers are generally paid better than other teachers, correct?
    NE teachers earn the most followed (not closely) by SAISD and then Northside. In general, you need about 5-10 years experience to earn $45,000 in the best districts. In the worst, you could work 20+ years and never earn that much.

    It's all money well spent though, because teachers spend much of their own money supplying poorer students with needed class-room supplies parents can't afford, provide teaching materials that the district can't afford, and still have to be model citizens, and on top of that, pay for their own health insurance.

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    NE teachers earn the most followed (not closely) by SAISD and then Northside. In general, you need about 5-10 years experience to earn $45,000 in the best districts. In the worst, you could work 20+ years and never earn that much.

    It's all money well spent though, because teachers spend much of their own money supplying poorer students with needed class-room supplies parents can't afford, provide teaching materials that the district can't afford, and still have to be model citizens, and on top of that, pay for their own health insurance.
    They also don't pay into Social Security right?

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    e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0 MannyIsGod's Avatar
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    No, the don't. Is there a relevence?

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    No, the don't. Is there a relevence?
    yeah, i don't know what that pertains too either.. they pay into a teacher retirement fund...

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    I can live with it JoeChalupa's Avatar
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    No, the don't. Is there a relevence?
    Does there have to be? I was a simple statement that happens to be a fact. Jeeeze Louise.

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    Does there have to be? Uh, I think so?

    Joe, when entering information into a discussion, it helps if it's relevent in some way. Sure it doens't have to be, but then whats the point?

    I wasn't being an ass, I was trying to figure out what you were getting at.

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