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I wonder how Donnie & Cuban feel about Carlisle saying "like" instead of "love". Maybe he didn't get that memo.
Mavs made some good trades on Don Nelsons watch. Those days are over.The Kidd trade pretty much ties the Mavs hands for a while. Terry is keeping the Mavs in the hunt for a playoff birth. What can you get for him? I don't think anyone will give you what he is worth giving his age and the fact teams will hold out seeing what the Nets did to the Mavs.
Two starters for two subs and a nutcase?
edit: well I guess technically Rip isn't a "starter" anymore but don't like that deal at all for the Pistons.
HAHA The Pistons would all over each others faces for that trade.
What are you talking about?
No one wants Josh Howard. Rip does all the things Jason Terry does except is 5 inches taller. Pllus Terry has pretty much the same contract while being a true back-up combo guard instead of a legit starting 2-guard that Rip is. And, Brandon Bass brings nothing Maxiell doesn't already as an undersized power forward.
That's ridiculous to think the Pistons would love that trade.
i would love that bag josh howard
Are things that good?
Terry's value is at the highest it ever will be. If Mavs can get a nice young player for him (to a team that may need someone like Terry right now to contend), then you do it.
This trade though, would be a glaring "this season is a waste" admission from the FO, which will never happen under the delusions of Mark and Donnie.
I consider Rip and Terry almost the same player with one exception, Terry is used to coming off the bench and Rip does not want to come off the bench. Then throw in the fact Rip has not helped the Pistons to that Championship level in years maybe the new blood would help. Terry is having a great season coming off the bench. Bass can be good and he is playing for a contract. Josh Howard. As much as I think this guy is a bag a new scene might do this guy some good. If a team like the Pistons are not giving anything up for him I would be wetting my pants thinking I could get him back to his old form. What are you giving up for this? Nothing.
I dont wanna sound like a blind optimist, but we're "only" 3.5 games outta 2nd in the west :P... I doubt we can close that gap in the final half of the season w/ the current roster, but I think we potentially could depending on what Howard yields. So, I wouldn't say the season is lost JUST yet. As far as winning a le perhaps its lost, but meh. MEH
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I'm with you on that. The Mavs can make the playoffs and any team but the Lakers maybe Hornets would be hating life catching them in first round. Who knows, the Mavs coach is still adjusting the bench, maybe he can find that right recipe.
One exception being Terry is used to coming off the bench?
So ignore the five inch difference? Ignore the fact that Rip is able to guard shooting guards and even some small forwards but Terry can only guard point guards? Ignore the fact that Rip has been the focal point offensively on a championship team? But, Terry being used to coming off the bench is the only difference? Yeah right.
What the are you smoking?
Change of scenery might do Josh Howard some good. I don't want it to be in Detroit. He's a very talented player. I don't deny that. But, everything from the weed to the stupid about the flag to his fourth quarter Houdini acts makes him the ultimate opposite of appealing. And, how will Josh Howard like coming off the bench? Yeah right. Don't want him. Take his talent and give him Shane Battier's brain, I'll take him. Otherwise, I don't want him on a team I follow.
So a multiple all star and a starting 2-guard on a championship team who was the focal point of the offense is nothing? You're insane. I'd be willing to give up Rip and Amir in the right deal. A package of Jason Terry and Josh Howard is not the right deal. Not bad players. But, no thanks.
Yeah yeah we'd all like to get some all-star for the team re , but tell me which team is going to give us some impact player in return and if Donnie and Mark have the ability to pull it off.
Calm down. Just a opinion. I think I am 100 percent right. I could careless about the 5 inches Hamilton has on Terry. Terry produces in the NBA just like Rip. I'm not smoking anything, you got any?
So five inches is not a difference eh?
Guess Glen Davis is basically Shaquille O'Neal and Andre Iguodala could fill in for Kevin Garnett.
Rip is a better player overall than Terry, maybe not this season.
Chris Paul does a pretty good Jason Kidd impersonation.
I dunno, I hope the front office does
Mike Miller would be ideal. Not an All-Star, but definitely could be a contributor.
I'm not comparing Glen Davis to Shaq Daddy! Or AI to KG. I am comparing Rip to Terry and again I think you have the same player. Infact I even think Terry is a little bit better at this stage of there careers.![]()
Didn't disagree that they are "similar" players. I won't even blast you for thinking Terry is better, even though I would probably disagree. But, I do vehemently disagree with your contention that basically the only difference between the two is that Terry is used to coming off the bench.
Duncan is over 31 too, so he is also expected to start getting worse pretty soon. It's a good time to sell high on TD. TD feel more comfortable at C than PF and the mavs just lack a good center who is dominant and experienced, and the spurs need some athletism for their squad so J Howard should be preferable to the spurs. How about J howard and Dampire for TD?
I didn't know he was gonna suck this bad this year!
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