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    Its really simple. The fed is an ins ution created by Alex Hamilton who is the original anti-federalist. It is the foundation of a centralized government and as such is anathema to libertarians. Who cares about what it actually does.
    Hamilton founded the Federalist party.

    I assume you mean federalism in terms of sharing power between the central government and the states?

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    Hamilton founded the Federalist party.

    I assume you mean federalism in terms of sharing power between the central government and the states?
    Exactly.

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    "ideals and beliefs of Ronald Reagan"

    list them, please

    St Ronnie ran up huge federal deficits, a fundamental conservative principal, of course.
    A huge expansion of military policy abroad and the list goes on.

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    Why do ditto heads hate america? Why do they want the US to fail? Why? WHY? WHY!!

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    Why do ditto heads hate america? Why do they want the US to fail? Why? WHY? WHY!!
    To me a ditto head is a dumbass. Not because of Rush but the fact that they are basically admitting they do not think for themselves. Using the term ditto essentially says whatever he says they agree with and that is just sad.

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    "huge expansion of military policy abroad"

    specifics?

    Invading Grenada?

    Invading Panama?

    cut-and-run from Lebanon?

    "tear that wall down"
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    To me a ditto head is a dumbass. Not because of Rush but the fact that they are basically admitting they do not think for themselves. Using the term ditto essentially says whatever he says they agree with and that is just sad.
    Your ignorance is showing; Jargon of the Rush Limbaugh Show:

    Dittoheads

    Faithful listeners to The Rush Limbaugh Show. As Limbaugh often explains in his books and radio show, these are not necessarily those who agree with his views. Rather, he believes they are people who love the show and what he's doing, and hope he never stops doing it. The term came into use because callers would frequently begin by giving praise and thanks to Limbaugh. Knowing that the caller’s and listener’s time is valuable, one caller simply said roughly "ditto to what those guys said (how much they enjoyed the show)." Thereafter, callers were encouraged to simply say, “Dittos,” and then get right to their point. Thus, long-time listeners would begin their calls with “Dittos, Rush,” leading to the term “dittoheads.” The term is also used pejoratively by critics of Limbaugh, who claim that his listeners simply copy his political views without any independent thought.

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    Dittoheads

    Faithful listeners to The Rush Limbaugh Show. As Limbaugh often explains in his books and radio show, these are not necessarily those who agree with his views. Rather, he believes they are people who love the show and what he's doing, and hope he never stops doing it. The term came into use because callers would frequently begin by giving praise and thanks to Limbaugh. Knowing that the caller’s and listener’s time is valuable, one caller simply said roughly "ditto to what those guys said (how much they enjoyed the show)." Thereafter, callers were encouraged to simply say, “Dittos,” and then get right to their point. Thus, long-time listeners would begin their calls with “Dittos, Rush,” leading to the term “dittoheads.” The term is also used pejoratively by critics of Limbaugh, who claim that his listeners simply copy his political views without any independent thought.
    Your inability to think for yourself is showing

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    Your inability to think for yourself is showing
    Your asshole is really ugly. Will you please stop being an ass?

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    Your asshole is really ugly. Will you please stop being an ass?
    No

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    Hmmm..... I've come to consider that kind of talk as the illogical conclusion of Ayn Rand style objectivism, and I usually just dismiss/or disregard the position.

    I almost never disagree with your take on issues, and I've come to consider you one of the best posters on this forum, so I'm interested-- what's your logic for wanting to abolish the Fed?
    My position on the Fed doesnt fall in line with Dr.Paul, but the ultimate abolition of the Fed would be a common goal he and I share. Ends justify the means kind of thing.

    The reasoning, for me, comes from our Cons ution and the powers that were vested in Congress for 130+ years until they found it politically expedient to relinquish that responsibility to a 3rd party.

    Granted, I understand the Feds place and value to our economy, but there is nothing that states this organization needs to exist outside government. In fact, it states that it is directly within the government's purview to control and regulate our money.

    But to me, in a simplistic view, borrowing our own money at interest from a 3rd party and then being responsible to absorb said debt into our national economy would seem to be a mish-mashed way of going about obtaining our currency and its value.

    I dont pretend to know enough about going back to the gold standard to even consider the prospect. What I do know is that the Fed is not a federal ins ution, yet it has ultimate power granted to it by a lazy government much too concerned with re-election to have an albatross like "currency exchange" hanging around their collective necks.

    So, to sum it up, it isnt so much the way the Fed works that irks me, it is the establishment and principle behind it that rouses my su ions of a government so incredibly willing to leave arguably the most important aspect of our government to a non-government ins ution. Especially when you have this sort of history behind it....

    But to be clear, it is the Bernanke's of the world who have us in this mess. People who create value out of thin air and sell it to the highest bidder on faith. Creating market conditions that favor the ever-increasing wealth of a nation based on the projections of a what-the- -ever economic model is the trend of the day (Keynesian, I believe). Bankrupting us from a remote island of no accountability and no elected positions.

    Do you know how the Fed Chairman is appointed? The POTUS gets a list of names from the Board Members and the President chooses one. He isnt interviewed or anything. Thats FUBAR. Thats criminal. Thats conspiracy.

    There is obviously much more to the story than that very narrow view of it, I realize. But it is my opinion this entire fiasco is not a mistake, or at least, it wasnt exactly prevented on purpose.

    Whether he is capitulant in the matter is immaterial to me. He represents the fiscal vulnerability of our nation, personified in our willingness to allow a non-governmental agency to control the value our goddamn money.

    Saying that aloud makes my headspin. Who in the name of Christ thought that was a good idea?
    ...and what do you know, Prescott Bush (great grandfather of our wonderful President and first chairman of the Federal Reserve) was indicated in said plot to overthrow our government. (edited: Here)

    I hate this government, I hate the elite who actually run it and I hope one day I will have a chance to send my soul to for this country.
    My thinking is that the federal reserve (although, Greenspan more or less created this global economic meltdown in so many ways) is a necessary check against a 1929 level economic meltdown, do you disagree with that?
    In its application, yes.

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    Your inability to think for yourself is showing
    Kiss my ass, I read the travest that is Ditto, Rush and what the does you or he think the callers mean mean when they say 'Ditto, Rush.' What a ty spin job to make morons feel they aren't being led by the nose.

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    Kiss my ass, I read the travest that is Ditto, Rush and what the does you or he think the callers mean mean when they say 'Ditto, Rush.' What a ty spin job to make morons feel they aren't being led by the nose.
    You quote Shasta, but I think your real target is WC. Similarly, Shasta began by quoting you, but ended up calling WC a mindless drone.

    Seems like there's a crossed wire here, but I could be wrong. Rereading the thread it appears to me that you two are on the same page concerning Rush.

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