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True. Besides, coming to a real contender would put pressure on Payton to perform. I've always thought that Gary Payton shrivels up and goes away anytime he's faced actual pressure to perform over the course of his career. I'd pass.
I don't think there's any way he signs on for a backup role. Anywhere. Particularly backing up the 21-year old who made a fool out of him in last year's Playoffs.
He'll be back in green.
True. Besides, coming to a real contender would put pressure on Payton to perform. I've always thought that Gary Payton shrivels up and goes away anytime he's faced actual pressure to perform over the course of his career. I'd pass.
So true. And a worn out one at that.
Beno does not suck.
The fact he is from Slovenia has nothing to do with the way he plays, shorty.
I agree with the guy who said let him go to Pho. if they want him. I doubt he will help them there
I suppose he'd be better than Wilks by a bunch and offer some vet experience that Beno doesn't--but would he be willing to come off the bench? Wasn't he a chronic er at the end in Seattle over playing time and coaching as well as LA.
Not that I am on a crusade to sign Payton or anything...but as you guys throw the dirt on his grave...
Try to remember he was on the team that eliminated us last season, inspite of the mismatch
Try to remember what happened to Tony in the last 4 games of that series.
Yes Payton had help...and yes Parker was shut down once he got it.
That Laker team beat us because of their experience.
And inspite of a total mismatch...through grit and experience he and his team were able to do the improbable...Come back and win 4 straight against us.
He maybe not be able to defend a guy like Parker 1 on 1, but he can play D in a team setting.
The guy has experience that could help this team in the playoffs.
And he and Barry play very very well together.
Don't feed troll!!!
The spurs are solid at pg but they could use a sf who can score.
Glenn Robinson has been waived from NO. He would add some needed scoring from the sf position. Of course if he is healthy. The spurs should look at him and if he is healthy pick him up.
And for me, that's basically the point. Even if it was realistic to think that Payton would consider SA (and for a number of reasons, I doubt he would) I was underwhelmed by his play and effort in the playoffs last season. Yes, LA succeeded in shutting down Parker, but they did so only after giving Payton extensive help by clogging the lane and deterring Tony's efforts to penetrate. That Payton couldn't accomplish that on his own speaks volumes about how much of his defensive prowess is just reputation anymore.
As importantly, Payton could do nothing offensively against Parker, who, by most accounts, was not in the great or even the really good categories among defenders.
I disagree. He can appear to play D when the rest of his team is dedicated to shutting down his man. Left to his own devices, though, Payton is a s of what he once was and has virtually no chance of providing anything other than token pressure against high quality PG.
I can see your point here -- that is, I can see your point if Popovich ever played Barry for any significant and consistent stretches of time. It doesn't make sense to me to bring a fading vet with marginal athleticism just to pair him with a part-time bench player for a few minutes here and there.
There's a short list of guys that can stop Parker, and I'll disagree about Parker's defensive ability last season as well....He was a solid defender last season.
Sure, Payton can't handle Parker...how many guys can? Parker is the fastest PG in the NBA.
Payton can still guard PG's whose game isn't based on quickness.
If you are gonna judge him by not being able to guard Parker...get ready to make out a long list.
And more importantly...on offense Payton can still post up any PG in the NBA.
Now that's not a big asset with Duncan on the court...but we are talking about using him as a reserve...I think Payton, even now, is more of a post up presence than any other player on our team.
He can play D last season when the rest of the team is dedicated to shutting Tony Parker. Tony Parker...not just typical NBA PG.I disagree. He can appear to play D when the rest of his team is dedicated to shutting down his man. Left to his own devices, though, Payton is a s of what he once was and has virtually no chance of providing anything other than token pressure against high quality PG.
The reason Payton cannot guard Parker is because of Parker's speed.
I am talking about using that back court when Duncan is resting...you can have a back court capable of dominating another teams bench with their mastery of the transition game and Payton's still good ability to post up in the half court.I can see your point here -- that is, I can see your point if Popovich ever played Barry for any significant and consistent stretches of time. It doesn't make sense to me to bring a fading vet with marginal athleticism just to pair him with a part-time bench player for a few minutes here and there.
As someone said earlier...Payton has to dominate the ball...well that's not such a bad option with Duncan on the bench. Our bench has sucked lately.
It's not like we have to use it...but it'd be a nice option to have.
I don't see how anyone could argue that this would hurt our team.
On top of that...the one thing I have always loved about Payton...he is a compe or, that guy hates losing more thany any player in the NBA. It wouldn't be so bad having guy like on our team...
People say he might be a cancer...no more than Jack was, because they essentially have the same at ude.
If he is signed with the knowledge he will be a reserve...I don't think his usual problems with a lack of PT are going to be an issue.
Spurs dont do it...TRUST ME
That freakin stiff?!?!?! yeah a real team player there.Glenn Robinson
STFU Rascal, you wouldn't know a player that would fit in here if he walked up and slapped you in your face.
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