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Palmer pre-injury was top 3.
I'd still take McNabb in those situation. Unfortunately his recievers drop everything he throws to them. Eagles need to get an elite reciever like Torry Holt.
Palmer pre-injury was top 3.
Tom Brady?
That's way off point. If it was Eli, Petyon, Tom or any other QB leading that last drive they would have won MVP. Ben does not get the credit he deserves. Most wins ever by a QB in his first 5 years. Great D yes but you still have to score points to win.
Big Ben is top five.
did you watch McNabb's last drive against the Cardinals? All of his passes were way off target. He was fantastic the rest of the game, but choked when it counted.
I added playmaker because of Big Ben's ability to scramble. With pressure Tom just gets sacked or throws the ball away. However, Tom delivers strikes when the game is on the line.
he made the plays he had to to win.
he's the most elusive non-mobile qb i've seen...
santonio was a beast as well!
i'd put healthy brady 1st, then payton, and ben 3rd.
stats don't make the qb.
last minute drives to win in the superbowl do.
The top 2 slots on any QB list are obvious: Brady and Peyton, in whatever order.
But Ben is somewhere between 3 and 5 on this list. Ben may not have the stats and consistency but is lethal in the 4th quarter. He's proved it time and time again this year with game-winning drives. The guy gets it done in the clutch, period - and that too with a crappy O-line and an inconsistent running threat. The only others in this category are Warner and Brees.
McNabb still underperforms in the big games (several miscues in the NFCCG when he threw it behind or out of reach of his receivers). Palmer the last 2 years has been injured and very average. Eli played great in SB 42, but this year he was mediocre at best .. with that O-line, D-line and run game this season was a failure for him. Rivers and Cutler ... all I can say is lol, AFC West.
I seem to remember him throwing a strike to Curtis on the Eagles' last play of the season. Unfortunately, Hood interfered with Curtis who promptly dropped the ball.
Roethlisberger is not a top 5 QB. He makes plays, but isn't consistent enough to warrant that high of a ranking, IMO.
Rivers? that, he's like the J-Ho of NFL. EMPTY STATS IM TELLIN YA.
Rivers is good.
yeah, a couple were off target. but more often than not, you can count on mcnabb. that last pass he threw was perfect, but the cornerback got away with a blatant interference call. and there is a ridiculous number of times when mcnabb makes perfect passes that his recievers simply drop. there has NEVER been a QB that has so consistently had a core of recievers as bad as McNabb's (except for the year with TO, and you saw how good they were), yet he still constantly has very good passing numbers, a high powered offense, and wins lots of games.
You've got Philip Rivers mistaken for his teammate, LaDainian.
o-line is not as bad as you guys say. worthlessburger just doesnt know how to step up in the pocket and get rid of the ball. if he would do that the way that Brady or Manning does, his line would look just as good as theirs. those guys give him a good 3 seconds each play to get rid of the ball, the time frame in which a QB is usually supposed to have gotten rid of the ball.
then you can say the same about the steelers defense, playing in the extremely offensively challenged AFC North. every team in that division has a offense.
Rivers is clutch, accurate, reads defenses well, doesn't turn the ball over, and has guts.
Rivers is damn good. A lot better than I expected him to turn out.
Roethlisberger threw zero or one TD pass in 13 games (including playoffs) this season. Steelers' record in those games? 10-3
He isn't asked to do much and usually doesn't.
I would put him in the top 5 no problem.
in other words, they are better when they are able to rely on their defense. when they have to rely on worthlessburger all game, things get quite iffy.
its great that he can make some nice GW drives. thats a very good quality. but the best QBs can carry the team all game to keep their team from having to be in a position where they need a GW drive. and if they need a GW drive, they can provide one of those too. thats why I would take guys like Manning, Brady, and McNabb over worthlessburger in a heartbeat still. more often than not, they carry their teams to positions where they dont need GW drives.
That Steeler offense does tend to get stagnant for periods of time in a game But Ben usually makes big plays when it counts. I don't think he's the #2 QB of all time (too early to make that assessment imho), he can be mentioned as one of the top QB in the game today.
the point is not that I would choose Ben ahead of Peyton, Brady, Brees and a host of others. The point is, when it comes to scrambling and making plays in crunch time, Ben is one of the best.
Lol at McNabb not doing in the crunch. 4th and 27 begs to differ
There will be five QBs (Russell, Ryan, Flacco, Garrard and Roeth) stats outside of the opponents' red zone listed below. Try to figure out which are Ben's:
A) 5 TDs, 10 INTs
B) 5 TDs, 7 INTs
C) 6 TDs, 15 INTs
D) 7 TDs, 9 INTs
E) 7 TDs, 11 INTs
The answer is C.
Not to mention he's averaging over a pick/game in his last 46 regular season starts. Guy is getting so overrated now he's approaching Favre status.
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