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    I don't get everyone slamming Udoka to prop up Hairston. I want Hairston to get minutes also, and I want to see what he can do, but I see no reason to pull down Udoka. I'm not saying he's great, but he's in the classic trap of not getting minutes and then feeling he has to shoot as quickly as possible to earn more time. A lot of previous quality Spurs players have fallen into this as well.
    It's two separate issues. Udoka ing sucks this year, and has since preseason with the exception of that little stretch where he was running the point. It seems to be a carryover from how bad he was at times against the Lakers. Udoka has to be pretty damn bad for me to be recommending a rookie replace him in the rotation, no matter how much I might like that rookie. And if you've been watching, you know Udoka has indeed been that bad. How much worse could Hairston be? I've got a bit more confidence in Hairston's upside than I do Udoka's at this point because at least Malik has an excuse.

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    Udokant has failed miserably in considerable minutes this season. If he never plays again, its too late. He's already played far too much.

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    I think after Udoka's failure defending Kobe in last year's playoffs, the team realized he would never be the Bowen replacement. if he had played better this year maybe they would have stuck with him. But Mason has kind of made him obsolete.

    I see Hairston replacing Udoka in next year's roster as the 5th SF/SG in the rotation. If he continues to play well that is.

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    tonight will be interesting without the big 3..Udoka and Hairston might be playing for minutes in this game..

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    Hairston should see a ton of minutes tonight. Pop almost has to let him work out errors with the big 3 out resting.

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    After tonight, I'm not sure this is even a question...Hairston with a ton of hustle plays, making the most of his opportunities on offense.

    He looked a little lost out there from time to time, but that's to be expected.

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    BTW, I just sat through some horrific basketball to see how Hairston would do...his performance (and maybe Fab's) is about the only good thing to come from tonight.

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    Damn, I want Hairston over Fin. He is a beast, imagine what he could do with an actual star(or 2) by his side???

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    But wtf is wrong with his fts?

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    the guy played great, despite having NOBODY on his team that could draw any kind of double team..

    I want to see how he plays with 3 guys that draw double teams, so he can focus on finishing, rebounding, and playing D..

    he gives us a new dimension..

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    But wtf is wrong with his fts?
    Small sample size I'm guessing. He hit them at a decent clip in the D-league.

    And if that's the worst thing you can say about his second game and first real minutes with the big club....I think that's indicative of a pretty solid showing by the kid.

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    Hairston looked really solid tonight. I believe he has the goods to crack the rotation. I wonder how many games it will take until Pop is sold on him.

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    Hairston - 17min, 12pts, 5 reb(4 off), 6-8 FG

    Udoka - 28min, 6pts, 5reb, 4st, 3-11 FG

    Besides the 4 steals, Hairston owned Udoka tonight. Even though he got in some foul trouble I thought his physicality on defense was big. He also used his size and strength to get to the rim and crash the offensive glass. If his game continues to develop to match his physical gifts he will be a big addition to this team.

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    Spurs 2008 draft pwns all n00bs.

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    So, tonight's game made it abundently clear that Udoka is more than expendible.

    What type of bargining power do the Spurs have with Udoka?

    In combination with another player, what type of trades are possible?

    Or do you think Hairston is not muture enough to handle 3rd string SG duties.

    Thoughts?

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    So, tonight's game made it abundently clear that Udoka is more than expendible.

    What type of bargining power do the Spurs have with Udoka?

    In combination with another player, what type of trades are possible?

    Or do you think Hairston is not muture enough to handle 3rd string SG duties.

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    Udoka's contract is at/near minimum and he doesn't hold much value as a player, since he's been virtually invisible this year. So he most likely won't be traded.

    I still think there's an outside shot that Hairston beats him outright for the job though.

    As much as Hairston needs to continue his development (catch 'n shoot, 3pt range), I don't think that development is going to take place in a league where he can just use his athleticism to blow past a defender and either get fouled or finish at the rim uncontested...something he'll be less successful at in the NBA.

    No, I think his best option is to cut his teeth with the big boys. He appears to be smart enough and have the work ethic/determination. The only question is will he get the chance? I'm hopeful, but only time will tell.

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    This is far too early to say anything about Malik. He did well tonight, but it was an awkward game. We do not know if he can make an impact this year.

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    So, tonight's game made it abundently clear that Udoka is more than expendible.

    What type of bargining power do the Spurs have with Udoka?

    In combination with another player, what type of trades are possible?

    Or do you think Hairston is not muture enough to handle 3rd string SG duties.

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    Maybe you could package Bonner and Udoka. You'd have to get a decent big back in return though.

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    Hairston definitely has a better future with our Spurs than Udoka. Udoka had no room for improvement, and will only decrease in his output as he continues to age (going to be 32 this year). Hairston is just beginning his professional career and will continue to improve on his skill set. To me, this is a no-brainer.

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    Maybe you could package Bonner and Udoka. You'd have to get a decent big back in return though.
    I'd say ship those two for Joe Smith or Wilcox...

    The Thunder aren't using two so might as well get something in return.

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    Someone should make a Gif of Hairston blocking out Carmelo and knocking him over in the process.

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    Someone should make a Gif of Hairston blocking out Carmelo and knocking him over in the process.
    That was tastic. How stron to you have to be to knock over someone with your ass, and NOT be named Shaq???

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    So, tonight's game made it abundently clear that Udoka is more than expendible.

    What type of bargining power do the Spurs have with Udoka?

    In combination with another player, what type of trades are possible?

    Or do you think Hairston is not muture enough to handle 3rd string SG duties.

    Thoughts?
    I think your maximum trade value for Udoka lies with Portland. However, I don't think they'll trade with SA.

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    Someone should make a Gif of Hairston blocking out Carmelo and knocking him over in the process.
    wow, malik did exactly that? i think the spurs got something here with this type of player. hope pop can give him minutes to for malik to show his wares.

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    there's absolutely no way Pop doesn't give him a few more tries after the game he had tonight..he's Pop's type of player..

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