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    They really should have taken Garnett when they had the chance ... I kept telling my friends that the Suns were getting better if they had taken the offer.

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    The suns get their upside forward with Hickson. They get a guy to fill in for Barbosa that is a better pure shooter to go with Nash. They get Anderson and Wally to help out this year with hustle, defense, rebounding and shooting then get 18+ million off the books for next year.

    Cleavland does not play Wally and JJ that much, so that does not hurt their chemistry. I think having Barbosa helps them more than Gibson because he is better at point and slashing. Then they get Amare who could use a change of scenery and can still be a force. He is young as well so there is future and he is tradeable if it does not work out bc teams will always gamble on him.
    Chemistry as in getting along in the locker room and in practices.

    Amare has shown to be a cancer, and I don't think the Cavs want that. Right now they are like the Brady Bunch and all go out to movies together and have circle jerks and stuff

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    Unless I am already running a high-level Playoff team, I can't imagine ever being willing to trade talented youth, picks and cap space for Amare Stoudemire. He's that unfortunate breed of player who can never be the centerpiece of a Championship team but cannot be happy unless he is treated as such.

    If Steve Francis were a forward, he'd have been Amare Stoudemire. And I expect that if Amare is traded, his career will follow a similar path to an early and disgruntled retirement. He's simply not that good. Despite his offensive brilliance he is a terrible defensive player in a position where you cannot afford to be weak on defense.

    And beyond that, he's a moron.

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    Unless I am already running a high-level Playoff team, I can't imagine ever being willing to trade talented youth, picks and cap space for Amare Stoudemire. He's that unfortunate breed of player who can never be the centerpiece of a Championship team but cannot be happy unless he is treated as such.

    If Steve Francis were a forward, he'd have been Amare Stoudemire. And I expect that if Amare is traded, his career will follow a similar path to an early and disgruntled retirement. He's simply not that good. Despite his offensive brilliance he is a terrible defensive player in a position where you cannot afford to be weak on defense.

    And beyond that, he's a moron.

    He's only got offensive brilliance when he's playing center or when Nash is PG. If he has to create his own shot without a significant athleticism advantage he's useless.

    Of course, by playing him at center, you're guaranteeing your team is the worst defensive team in basketball.

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    imagine if the Magic trade Hedo Turkolu for Amare...
    Dwight + Amare

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    imagine if the Magic trade Hedo Turkolu for Amare...
    Dwight + Amare
    and Tyraun Lue!

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    imagine if the Magic trade Hedo Turkolu for Amare...
    Dwight + Amare
    Amare would be horrible if he had to share the paint with Dwight and in addition didn't have a pure passing PG.

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    They need more than Hedo for Amare. I seriously don't things will get much better/different unless they change coaches or get rid of Nash and Amare.

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    I can see why Nash is not on the block, he represents the Suns rise to elite level in the later part of this decade, but at this point he is hardly the player he was. I am sure he would love to go play for a couple more years in NY with D'Antoni, and the Knicks would do that trade in a second. The Suns could get some nice players in return anyway. I say Nash should be on the block as well.

    The reason Nash isn't on the trade block is because the Suns don't have a good young point guard to replace him.

  10. #35
    One more time... xtremesteven33's Avatar
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    Bosh for Stoudemire

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    What could Kerr possibly get in return for Amare? J-Ho? I think Kerr is about to blow the team up and start over.

    If that is the case, they should have left the Sun's alone and just tweaked their roster and let D'Antoni be the coach. Kerr is looking like an idiot now. If I were the owner, Kerr's butt would be fired.

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    Suns trade Amare to the bulls for Dang and Gordon or Dang and Kirk?

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    thats all you can do.

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    Suns trade Amare to the bulls for Dang and Gordon or Dang and Kirk?
    Who is Dang? I know who Deng is.....but who's this Dang fellow?

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    I wish.

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    He's only got offensive brilliance when he's playing center or when Nash is PG. If he has to create his own shot without a significant athleticism advantage he's useless.

    Of course, by playing him at center, you're guaranteeing your team is the worst defensive team in basketball.
    Thank you. The guy runs the floor well, has a money jumper and can drive. He's a fantastic offensive player but people were severely overrating his offense when you put it in context of how much of his points (a huge, huge majority) were created for him.

    I still can't believe people seriously didn't consider the KG for Amare deal. It would've have been light's out for 2-3 years for the league.

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    Bosh for Stoudemire? No thanks.

    The Suns need role players, not another scorer. What would Bosh give us that Amare doesn't?

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    Bosh for Stoudemire? No thanks.

    The Suns need role players, not another scorer. What would Bosh give us that Amare doesn't?
    A better at ude and better leadership. Bosh seems like he cares about winning more than being THE MAN!!!, so that alone makes it worth while.

    As long as Sarver is owner, the Suns will never have good role players. Sad, but true.

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    Hey DPG, remember how I told you about that Amare trade proposed to me in fantasy?


    Well someone actually traded Billups and Durant for Amare......I guess it takes a re to want a re .
    Wow that is absolutely terrible. I would not trade Durant for Amare straight up, let alone add Billups? I might, and I mean might trade Billups for Amare straight up. That is almost vetoable.

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    If I'm a Suns fan, I'd jump at Bosh for Stoudemire. Bosh is similar in skill level but would fit far better next to Shaq and is a better defender.

    But I doubt Toronto considers it.

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    Odom For Amare

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    Who is Dang? I know who Deng is.....but who's this Dang fellow?
    I call him Dang but yea Deng

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    Wow that is absolutely terrible. I would not trade Durant for Amare straight up, let alone add Billups? I might, and I mean might trade Billups for Amare straight up. That is almost vetoable.
    I'm the commish and my deal is unless I think there's collusion I don't veto so I didn't. The kid trading for Amare has a history of making dumb trades so I had no choice. I'm still mad the 4th place team was able to trade Amare for 2 top ten players.

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    Done. Take his whiny ass.

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    DB.com Buzz: Amare For Aldridge?
    We Got A Feel For A Deal That Would Change The West Race
    By David Lord -- DB.com

    This comes from having an ear to the ground. Some reading of tea leaves. Some 2+2 = stuff.
    I think there's a biggie brewing in NBA trade circles. A Western Conference-race-changing biggie.
    I've watched with curiosity and interest as the Phoenix Suns have unraveled. It's clearly a team of contrasting styles and ill-fitting parts. I and others have said I think they should return to their up-tempo roots, and that Shaq fits better in Dallas, but multiple reports say owner Robert Sarver is dead-set on avoiding a return to SmallBall. If they keep Shaq, what's their alternative? Their only realistic alternative, it seems, might be to trade Amare Stoudemire for a PF who might fit better alongside Shaq – but I haven't really believed they'd trade Amare given his age (26) and explosiveness.

    But the situation is rapidly deteriorating farther and faster in the desert than anyone could have imagined, and it may now be past the point of no return.
    While I don't claim to have moles inside the Suns HQ, little snippets here and there from people I listen to (should we call them "our sources" in order to make this a true Vesceyesque rumor-generator?) have me thinking that a big trade is brewing. ... or certainly, serious talks that could lead to this big trade.

    A blockbuster.
    One that involves two playoff teams and rivals in the Western Conference.
    One that could create a deadline domino effect in the West, just like last year.
    Don't be surprised if Amare gets traded by the deadline to Portland for LaMarcus Aldridge (with Raef Lafrentz included as trade filler for rules purposes).

    The front offices in Portland and Phoenix have been regular trade partners in recent years, and much of the young talent now residing in Portland has come via picks they have scored in those deals with the Suns. These franchises have an open dialogue that they are comfortable with, and I think they are talking again. Seriously talking

    Both sides may still be angling for a little more of this or that to be included while they're dealing. For example, Phoenix would also love to score a backup and heir to Nash and Portland has amassed a rich cache of youngsters at PG. .

    Why for Portland? Amare would provide a more experienced and explosive interior scorer in the middle of the Portland youth corps. While Dallas-are-native Aldridge is young and talented, the track record of Amare is much more enticing - and he's still only 26.

    Why for Phoenix? Aldridge is a bit more perimeter-oriented by nature (which better complements Shaq). He's also much more of a contributor on defense which the Suns badly need. And there's no question that Amare, for all his gifts, is unhappy, doesn't fit alongside Shaq, and presents a big problem to the Suns.

    Both are young with a long future ahead of them in the NBA. It's a huge gamble for both teams however, in trading away a star performer from the center of a playoff contender and shaking up the mix, but I think the rewards on both sides are too great to pass up, and after much hand-wringing -- this deal really could happen.
    After writing the above, but before we could get to print, other reports have emerged. Yahoo Sports says today that sources say Kerr has told teams that he’s willing to trade anyone on his roster except for Steve Nash, and goes on to speculate that Stoudemire is going somewhere and that the Suns are fielding offers for him. That jives with my perception, and furthermore, I say we should look for more articles from others in the coming days as the Suns now go under the microscope, with mentions of young PFs like Bosh and Beasley and potential trade partners like New York (where Amare's former coach D'Antoni now runs the wide-open offensive system STAT loves). Anything can happen - but we have reason to think that when the dust settles the Suns' partner will be Portland, and the acquisition will be Aldridge.

    And what might this have to do with Dallas?

    If it happens, this appreciably alters the playoff chase in the West as well as the fortunes of the two teams themselves. Adding Stoudemire's explosive interior play to Portland takes them from a nice up-and-coming talent-laden team of the future to a scary threat right now, and adding an enthusiastic talented PF who is willing to work on defense alongside Shaq brings Phoenix right back into the mix of contenders. If it happens (and I really think it will), expect this deal to motivate other teams – San Antonio? Houston? And yes, Dallas? -- to scurry to the trade table to discuss upgrades of their own in a quest to keep up with the moving and shaking.

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