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Duncan for Wallace?
or you can say Bruce for Wallace
I would rather have Chris Bosh than Wallace. Send Bonner back to Toronto in trade! That would so mess with Bonner's head!
Duncan for Wallace?
or you can say Bruce for Wallace
Splitter's definitely a pussy; he went in and pulled out of the draft like three times before punking out and not coming to the NBA once drafted.Yeah, I bet you'd pick 8 mil over 1... pussy.
David for Rasheed straight up was the big rumor around the league that I remember from when the team was 6-8 in '99. I remember thinking it was crazy, but everyone was panicking, calling Duncan a second-year flop, wanting to trade David, fire Pop and hand the team to Doc Rivers, etc.
When was the Vin Baker talk?
You can't have him <at least this year>
He's coming. The spurs know they can't win a championship with Bonner at Center. They are gonna shock the world with a deal. I can feel it.
all of this is true. The most likely scenario would be the 2nd one you proposed. If this trade where to happen the people staying would be
George Hill, Roger Mason Jr., Kurt Thomas
The Maybes:
Michael Finley
Bruce Bowen
Definantley Going:
Some 1st and 2nd round picks
Ime Udoka
Jaque Vaughn
Matt Bonner
Oberto
think about. We might not be so bad if we made the right moves.
Is there a better fit for the Spurs than Rasheed Wallace. He would be perfect, even for 2 or 3 seasons at 35. But, i wont get my hopes up.
pistons want none of those players...all of this is true. The most likely scenario would be the 2nd one you proposed. If this trade where to happen the people staying would be
George Hill, Roger Mason Jr., Kurt Thomas
The Maybes:
Michael Finley
Bruce Bowen
Definantley Going:
Some 1st and 2nd round picks
Ime Udoka
Jaque Vaughn
Matt Bonner
Oberto
think about. We might not be so bad if we made the right moves.
Yes I agree but what do the Pistons want at this point? There are like the Suns, they are in total and desperation re-building mode. Sure they don't want the spurs players but what do they want and what can they get? Not much. This is exactly how the Pau Gasol deal went down.
actually, they would be happy with nothing back. with sheed and AI coming off their books, they should have enough money to peruse a top tier FA next year. they would rather let him expire than take back trade filler on multi year contracts (which is what we have to offer).
im a moron with this stuff so is what you just said a good thing? Does that mean pursuing Rasheed is somewhat realistic?
The entire clip from Marc Stein
San Antonio's desire to acquire one more big man (preferably a floor-stretching big man) to counter the Lakers and Boston is no secret.
The surprise stems from the rumbles I've heard about Detroit free-agent-to-be Rasheed Wallace, he who is chief among the Pistons unsettled by the realization that big changes are undoubtedly coming in that locker room, having legit interest in joining the Spurs to team up with his 2005 NBA Finals nemesis Tim Duncan.
Don't see a real trade possibility here -- given that the Pistons are unlikely to take back anything other than expiring contracts for the expiring deals possessed by Wallace and Allen Iverson unless they have a chance to trade for someone like Stoudemire or Chris Bosh -- but it's something to file away for free agency
Just for the fun of it...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...14~8&te=&cash=
Mind you, I don't think that's going to happen, but it would be one way to get him.
Why for the Spurs: Obvious. (Afflalo is just there to make salaries work.)
Why for the Pistons: Get to play with Marion for the rest of the season, and increase their expiring contracts for the summer by almost $4 million.
Why for the Heat: Well, to be honest, I think the Heat can get more for Marion than this. However, let's assume a few other deals fall through the cracks, and they still want to get SOMETHING for Marion. They've expressed a desire to get a few things for Marion: proven big men, expiring contracts, and no contracts that extend into the summer of 2010. As far as "proven big men" go, they could probably do better than Kurt Thomas and Matt Bonner, but they could also do a lot worse. They also retain about $5 mil in 2009 expiring contracts and $7 mil+ in 2010 expiring contracts.
Caveat (among others): Michael Finley would have to agree to this trade. However, I just can't see the Spurs trading 3 of their big men (Bonner, Oberto, and Thomas) and only getting one in return.
Ok. So getting Rasheed....its kind of possible?
The ESPN article is just misleading and confuses me. Says one thing than says the other.....AHHHHHH I Just dont know.
no. they want one of two things for sheed at this point:
1) an upgrade talent wise. they trade sheeds expiring (plus potentially other assets) to a team looking to dump salary. ie, a gasol/carter style trade.
2) netting additional assets while still maintaining expiring contracts. they trade sheeds expiring for other expirings, while also netting an asset or two (draft choices, young players, ect...). think what we swung last year to net KT.
we can offer neither to the pistons.
Dude im pretty sure we can offer something to the Pistons. Why would all of this have been brought up if it were just blatant wishful thinking
the article says that the spurs would like to pick up another big, and sheed might be high on their wish list. unfortunately, the spurs dont have crap to offer (actually, we have crap, thats the problem).
so if we did have interest in sheed, it would probably have to wait until the offseason. i dont see whats so hard about this.
Haha thank you for your time. Dammit, I really hope they get someone before the deadline.
I think the chances of getting Sheed are slim to none a this point. I don't see any players the Pistons would want outside of the big 3 in a scenario that works financially.
That said, I think the chances will be higher this offseason. It all depends on what Rasheed wants money wise. If he would sign for the MLE I think the Spurs would be interested. But thats a long shot.
i think its impossible to get him now without giving up something too valuable.
our only chance is to sign him as a FA
as Marc Stein mentioned, Sheed might have the Spurs on HIS wish list. this doesn't mean that there is any chance to get a player on a 14 million salary contract to SA via trade. of course the Pistons won't take a bunch of half retired vets on longer term contracts back.
(well,it would take a van Horn scenario with Horry, then it would technically be doable, but Holt is not Cuban and won't burn some 10 million $ or more, just to get Sheed for half a season.)
the Spurs might in fact have a chance to get Sheed next summer. maybe he is in fact willing to take the MLE for 2 or 3 years. considering that he will have netted a career income of 145 million $ including this season, he doesn't really need to push for the best possible salary, wherever it comes from.
only way sheed can get to the spurs this season is if he negotiates a buy out and then signs with the spurs for whatever money they have left of the MLE. otherwise, spurs will have to wait until the summer before they can target him.
Picking up Rasheed in free agency is a much more likely scenario. We just don't have the contracts to do a trade(we are not trading away our whole front line...or Bowen or Finley). With teams throwing money around like crazy it is not unthinkable that we sign Rasheed and one other player(Travis Outlaw?) rather than breaking the bank for one of the big names like some teams are looking to do.
what's the benefit of a buy out for Detroit? Sheeds contract expires anyhow, they would not save much money. Pistons are still a PO team, why should they tank the whole season, just to fulfill a wish of one of their players?
If Rasheed wants in you gotta try as hard as you can to make it happen. This is good if true. Maybe Rasheed can force the Pistons to trade him to the Spurs by refusing to go to other teams?This could happen.
ESPN has posted an article called "Trade Talk: Who's Staying and Who's Going"
I cite this from it...
5. San Antonio's desire to acquire one more big man (preferably a floor-stretching big man) to counter the Lakers and Boston is no secret.
The surprise stems from the rumbles I've heard about Detroit free-agent-to-be Rasheed Wallace, he who is chief among the Pistons unsettled by the realization that big changes are undoubtedly coming in that locker room, having legit interest in joining the Spurs to team up with his 2005 NBA Finals nemesis Tim Duncan.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/feature...~8~8&te=&cash=
As you can see the only way is to throw away the spurs trash(udoka, vaughn and the injured Mahinmi) and than give away a good defender in Bowen... and Detroit needs defense, lastly you gotta give away a good player in Bonner. It would take a lot to get Sheed but it would sure as give us that 5th ring. Is it just me or is this a trade to watch out for?
Then again it's a pretty big pipe dream for this season.
Last edited by Ice009; 02-06-2009 at 07:20 AM.
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