Iverson sucks

[JamStone]

I actually believe that Joe Dumars believed Iverson would at the very least keep them at the same level as before the trade. I don't think at the time of the trade, Dumars felt it would be this bad and for it to last this long still trying to figure out how to play with each other. If he expected it to turn out this way, I don't think he would have made the trade.

Obviously, he was wrong. But, I don't think he "knew" or expected it to be like this. The silver lining, of course, is that even if things had not worked out as they appear to be right now, there were the additional reasons for making the deal in getting cap space and getting more practical development for Rodney Stuckey as the main point guard.

But, no, I don't think Dumars "knew" what he was getting into. I think he thought Iverson would help them in areas that the Pistons needed help in, mainly getting points in the paint more frequently and getting some superstar calls. That notion was clearly wrong. It's was a complete mistake from a basketball sense.

And, Iverson doesn't help that many more tickets than the Pistons were selling beforehand. Trading for Iverson to help sell tickets was not a factor. Guaranteed.

[leemajors]

The trade has definitely been bad for the Pistons from a basketball standpoint. And, yes, Iverson hasn't fit well at all.

However, some of you haven't been watching the Pistons at all.

First of all, Iverson actually was one of the few Pistons who played well last night, dominating the ball or not.

And, since the trade, Iverson had tried not to dominate the ball. He deferred to Rip and Stuckey, didn't hog the ball, and took a lot fewer shots than he was accustomed to. And, the Pistons were still losing.

He's just not fitting in with the team, and/or the team refuses to adequately adjust to playing with him still. There are other factors as well, like coaching. But, the chemistry with Iverson and the rest of the team has certainly been a major problem. Him ball hogging is actually not as big of an issue because when he doesn't ball hog, they still aren't playing well plus Iverson isn't contributing as much.

good take.

[Pelicans78]

I actually believe that Joe Dumars believed Iverson would at the very least keep them at the same level as before the trade. I don't think at the time of the trade, Dumars felt it would be this bad and for it to last this long still trying to figure out how to play with each other. If he expected it to turn out this way, I don't think he would have made the trade.

Obviously, he was wrong. But, I don't think he "knew" or expected it to be like this. The silver lining, of course, is that even if things had not worked out as they appear to be right now, there were the additional reasons for making the deal in getting cap space and getting more practical development for Rodney Stuckey as the main point guard.

But, no, I don't think Dumars "knew" what he was getting into. I think he thought Iverson would help them in areas that the Pistons needed help in, mainly getting points in the paint more frequently and getting some superstar calls. That notion was clearly wrong. It's was a complete mistake from a basketball sense.

And, Iverson doesn't help that many more tickets than the Pistons were selling beforehand. Trading for Iverson to help sell tickets was not a factor. Guaranteed.

Iverson was a short-term solution. Dumars wanted to dump salary and still have a chance to compete this season. Unfortunately, Iverson couldn't win and now they're just waiting for the season to end so they can clear his salary and Wallace's as well. They're projected to sign Boozer in the offseason and maybe Okur or just make a run at the 2010 class.

[Ghazi]

Pistons are in serious danger of missing the playoffs now... I think they might go 0-4 on this road trip.