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Another Elliott comment on Barea, "They have him listed as 6 foot? He's looks about 5'10" in heels!"
I would take Clyde & Mike Breen of the Knicks every day of the week. I would also take Mike Fratello & Marv Albert of the Nets.
BTW you may have watched the latter years of NBA on NBC, but in the early 1990's the combination of Marv Albert & Mike Fretello was probably the best commentary tandem ever in NBA. They were a lot better in those days than they are now, and that says something.
I know people like Eliot & Land around here, but when your broadcast is on National television (it was on NBA TV yesterday), atleast try to be more unbiased. That's probably another reason why the NBA Leaguepass doesn't use our feed.
I may be a Spurs fan, but i would rather watch the Knicks, Nets, Clippers, Lakers, Miami, Minnesota, Chicago, Washington and Indiana's feed than ours.
Another Elliott comment on Barea, "They have him listed as 6 foot? He's looks about 5'10" in heels!"
You people that live in San Antonio don't realize how good you have it! It sucks being a Spurs fan in other cities and having to watch the Spurs on NBA league pass. Almost all of the other announcers are boring and un-informed - I would LOVE to be able to listen to Bill and Sean on a regular basis!
wtf does it matter if they're homers for YOUR team.
Always heard good things about Clyde Frazier as a commentator, but never heard one of his broadcasts. So can't offer comment. Will take your word for it. Fratello and Albert were competent. Nothing to wax nostalgic about, but won't offer any argument there. But Mike Breen??? Are you kidding?
Listening to his ABC broadcasts is like nails on a chalkboard. If you're gonna get overly sensitive about homerism, that's not the guy you want to use as a standard. He's doing national broadcasts as an anchor, not as a color analyst, and yet his biases are STILL screamingly obvious. If any big star not wearing a small-market uniform commits a foul, he'll pull the "I'm not sure there was a foul there", whereas he suddenly goes blind and deaf if his big stars commit a foul ("I don't see a foul there.") So predictable and funny that it's almost an SNL skit waiting to happen....
Bottom line -- I think homerism bothers you more than me. I expect content and basketball insight and will ignore the voices (or just turn them down) when the Mike Breens, Brent Musbergers, and Doug Collinses run their junk.
Sean is my favorite.
I like both Sean and Bill. They make a great duo.
It boils down to whether or not you like to hear Spurs games commented on by Spurs fans, which is exactly what Sean and Bill are. Personally, I do. But they are homers and I absolutely get why fans of other teams don't like them.
Elliott did color nationally before he went back to SA, and he was great. I have a feeling he's encouraged to be a homer for the Spurs. I'd probably enjoy hearing someone agree with me that Hill didn't travel or that the charge on Fab was a lame make up call.
Of course they are homers. That is a no brainer.
I love Sean Elliott. I'll admit, I'm biased, but it's Sean. SA is truly home for him and it shows whenever I'm back home and get to watch Spurs broadcasts. I actually do miss his work on ESPN.. I'm glad we brought him back where he belongs.
However, I cannot stand Bill Land. "Oh Mama" has me going for the mute button and Bill on the radio faster than Tony can race baseline to baseline. I'm also not a fan of him on Big 12 football games on FSN. IMO, he is the weakest we've had.
We've always had some pretty good p-b-p announcers with the Spurs. Dave Barnett will always be my favorite. Was always so solid and will always remind me of my childhood, growing up in SA and watching Dave, Sean, TC and later Avery, etc. I was a big fan of Greg Papa, even though he'll always be a Bay Area guy. Joel Myers was alright, but no Spurs announcer has sounded like more of an outsider, but I do respect him as a broadcaster. Stockton is in the Basketball Hall Of Fame. Enough said. We were lucky to have him. Land was always the backup guy and eventually just took over the spot. Now, that I live away from SA, I don't mind getting other teams feeds, but I know that I can still get WOAI at night despite being 1,000 miles away.
The Cavs announce team are horrible. They are boring and they are the biggest homers in the NBA. Bill and Sean are great, and couldn't ask for anyone better.
+1: Dave Barnett.....yeah, that guy was really good back in the day, wasn't he? Very solid.
+1: Stockton.....I know this guy gets bagged pretty hard on this board, but he and Elliott together are by far my favorite Spurs broadcast team ever. Stockton was a pleasure because he was no-nonsense and seemed intent on just trying to call a good game rather than draw attention to himself. I think Sean played off him really well and became a better analyst because of him. Stockton wasn't immune to a "senior moment" here or there, but man, that guy was the real deal.
And as far as Bill Land -- can't argue w/ many posters here and their annoyance w/ him. I can take him or leave him. Bottom line -- when a p-b-p guy has someone as good as Sean next to him, he should just play it straight and leave the "oh mamas" at home.
I have never made it a secret that I absolutely can not stand Bill Land. I mute the TV if I have to watch Spurs coverage of the game because of him.
They are homers in a way, but it is the Spurs Broadcast. Not the TNT crew or ESPN crew who are LeBron and Kobe homers.
I love Sean and Bill, sure theyre homers, but of course who isnt homers for their team? I have heard way worse announcers this yr watching other teams games. Plus its refreshing to hear our guys rather than the sucking off of Lebron and Kobe on the nat'l networks.
I don't care if Bill Land says 'Oh Mama!' a few times a game. I would be surprise if he says it more than 5 times a game. Usually 2 or 3 times...so what??? It's not like he's spouting off with every score. Usually he says it when there is great fervor or tension, or when there is just a great play.
Well, you should know that avitar of the original poster....is a tranny. I'M NOT BULL TING!!!
I'm also a bill and sean fan, and think they do a better job commentating spurs games than anyone. Every local broadcast is going to have homers for their team; why would you expect any differently? Would you rather listen to bag van gundy fail at being funnny, while giving a 30 minute kobe suckfest on a local spurs telecast?
I have to watch the Spurs on NBA league pass. As such I get to hear all the other team's announcers. While the Spurs announcers are sometimes very much for the Spurs they are fair and are exciting to hear. They make it fun to see the game. Sean has great comments and is funny. Bill brings excitement to the game. I enjoy them both and appreciate their insight.
Yeah, I don't get the hate for it either, it's not annoying anyway. And what do you people want in a local commentator duo, there gonna be homers to some degree, get over it. I think Sean is hilarious, he always has a bunch of witty stuff to say. I love when he bags on Bowen, and they go back and forth.
And JVG doesn't tell it like it is, he's a Laker/Cav homer like everyone else, and his jokes NEVER work. Plus, he always hates on the Spurs, which gets old.
I agree on whoever said Marc Jackson focused mostly on sounding "street". I want some intelligent conversation from his voiceovers of video recaps, but it's a no go.
Blazers homers are making Bill Land look like Marv Albert...
I know people like Eliot & Land around here, but when your broadcast is on National television (it was on NBA TV yesterday), atleast try to be more unbiased. That's probably another reason why the NBA Leaguepass doesn't use our feed.
Who gives a ??
Why do you give a so much what everyone else thinks?
Elliott and Land are the best PBP color combo SA has ever had.
STFU and chill out.
I personally like Sean saying when Ginobili dunks on someone "He tells ____ to get him some of THAT"
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