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DRob was one BUFF and RIPPED mofo, plus with all that speed/quickness/agility..........FUDGE
Look at that physique!!:
Werd..the difference in speed would be the major issue.
Does anybody remember watching Duncan trying to guard Amare in 2005 when Amare put 37PPG on him?
Or Dirk in 2007 when Dirk looked like Wilt and Pop wouldn't even attempt guarding him with Duncan?
Drob was faster than Amare and Dirk, and could jump higher, and was taller, and stronger.
And he's a better defender than Duncan is...Drob took the toughest defensive assignment on the same court with Duncan, even when he was broken.
Drob wasn't a choker either...I wouldn't say he was clutch like Duncan is...but he's not going to beat himself either, which is what choking is.
The Amdiral wins this...it's really not up to much debate for thosee that saw Drob play in his prime...
Yeah Duncan probably does a better job of making his teamates better and his will to win was unequestionable...but David Robinson was a freak.
He was probably in the top 5 of the fastest players in the NBA..he was definitely the fastest on the Spurs, and AJ was a pretty damn quick guard so that's saying something. 7'1...fastest player on the teamn and probably one of the fastest in the league. That combination ought to be illegal. Not just his feet, but his hands too, which is why he finished in the top 5 in steals one year and averaged about one and a half per game for his career.
And if Hakeem had been guarding Drob 1 on 1...he'd have seen less minutes because he would have been in foul trouble.
DRob was one BUFF and RIPPED mofo, plus with all that speed/quickness/agility..........FUDGE
Look at that physique!!:
Wasn't there a thread with a poll, about the same subject, made a long time ago? If I remember correctly, the vote results were pretty even.
I think Timmy would take DRob.
Tim's variety on the block would serve him well against DRob.
Timmy's the better shooter also.
But fantastic players, but Timmy is a top10 of all time. DRob is a top50 of all time.
And even in 1 on 1, Timmy would win.
I feel confident saying that DRob would be hard to bet against in this instance. I know they're both masters of the defensive craft, but Robinson was simply better.
He was impossible to defend on drives to the basket because of his freakish quickness in his younger days and there weren't many who could stay with him step for step, as evidenced by the stats that show how many times defenders had to foul him to stay off of posters and basketball cards. He was always tops in trips to the line:
1989-90 NBA 837 (2)
1990-91 NBA 777 (2)
1991-92 NBA 561 (4)
1992-93 NBA 766 (2)
1993-94 NBA 925 (1)
1994-95 NBA 847 (2)
1995-96 NBA 823 (1)
1997-98 NBA 660 (4)
His jumper and up and under moves were pretty flawless in his prime too...I think the argument that he was a TEAM scorer doesn't hold water. Tim's hard to defend, but David was practically impossible to.
How you gonna stop it?
Yes, that is 7'1 255lb man moving like that...and he was powerful enough that he was probably the best Shaq defender of anyone.
You can't out run it...and unless your name is Shaq, you aren't overpowering it.
2 players in NBA history have won a scoring le and a DPOY...
One is named Michael Jordan, the other is named David Robinson.
It seems to be the trend in these threads to act like David Robinson had the scoring ability of Malik Rose or something.,
That made about 5 seasons where he scored over 25PP...all of them better than Duncan's best season, and he shot well over 50% in all of them.
He scored 29ppg one season...
He scored 71 points in a game.
He had one season where he averaged nearly 5 assists per game...
And he shot over 70% from the FT line for his career. And he got there a of a lot.
And ya'll are absolutely right, he wasn't the offensive player that he was a defensive player, that does not mean he was a poor offensive player, it means was an absolutely incredible defensive player.
The Admiral won't be stopped in this contest unless you put some bionic legs on Duncan.
Last edited by whottt; 02-27-2009 at 09:38 PM.
whottt...i never realized Robinson led the league in FTA...pretty damn impressive.
Thanks! I searched for it but couldn't find anything.
I think that thread had many good arguments for both sides. I remember voting for Duncan, but changing my mind later. D-Rob would probably win it.
Happy to help.Thanks! I searched for it but couldn't find anything.
what do you mean timmies range put him over.. in 95 robinson was REGULARLY taking 3's and making them..he has the range, he just knew his role and what shots he had a higher percentage of making
Drob lead the league in FTA twice and he was 2nd 4 other times, and 4th 2 other times, he lead the league in FTM 3 times, was 2nd 3 other times, and 4th 2 other times.
You look at the list of all time FTA and you will see David Robinson ranks 11th on that list in 14 seasons. Some players shot more than Drob in more seasons...some shot more than Drob in the same number of seasons(Wilt Chamberlain, Oscar Robertson and Jerry West)...
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...robinda01.html
But what you don't see is that David Robinson really only played 13 seasons...and only 7 of those were as the main guy, the other 6 he was broken and getting secondary(or fewer)touches. So basically he did the bulk of what put him on that list in 7 seasons.
He's on the short list for the greatest at getting to the line of all time...Wilt was better. Shaq may be better...
Differnce is? Shaq is a 50% FT shooter, Wilt was a 40% FT shooter...
David Robinson was a 70% FT shooter...
Teams weren't fouling David to put him on the line...they were doing it because that's what happened when you defended him with one person.
Which is why they seldom did it...
David was impossible to defend 1 on 1...Duncan is next to impossible to defend 1 on 1, he's also next to impossible to defend 2 on 1, whereas Drob was not. But Drob could defend just about anyone 1 on 1 as well. That's pretty much the reason Drob would win...
Like I said earlier, once Duncan got it figured out what he'd figure out is that he needs to be twins.
Saying Duncan would will himself to be able to keep up with Drob's speed, power and athleticism...well you might as well claim he could will himself fast enough to win the Olympic 100 meters or high jump.
If you gave Dwight Howard Amare's speed, you'd have a player about like Drob.,..only not quite as fast or coordinated, but slightly more powerful.
IIRC correctly Drob was still winning the windsprints in his final season of 2003...on a team that included Tony Parker and Speedy Claxton.
It's like when Drob grew from a 6'4 guard to a 7'1 C in a year...it happened so quick his body forgot it was supposed to get slower as it got bigger. It just wasn't natural for a 7'1 man to have the agility and speed Drob had.
Funny thing is Duncan is fast by bigman's standards...
And Drob? Drob was fast by point guard standards.
You can't coach speed.
Last edited by whottt; 02-27-2009 at 10:54 PM.
Damn look at those tri's.
Well, how about matching up stronger players.
Say Udoka vs Vaughn?
It'll go like this:
Udoka: Clank, Clank, JShot, Clank, Clank, Loses Ball, Loses Ball, Layup, Clank, Clank.
Vaughn: Clank, Clank, Clank, Clank, Clank, Clank, Clank, Circus Shot Made, Layup Made, Clank, Clank, Clank.....
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