at you "hearing" things like you have some Deep Throat informant at Valley Ranch who feeds you info. Also, the fact that TO feels the need to get into drama with Bobby ing Carpenter, the most worthless player in the NFL, only proves what a moron TO Owens is.
-SpursHaveFourRings
Who is going to trade for a washed up cancer and take on his contract? The talent level doesn't match the money + all his bull . There's a reason TO didn't get traded and had to be cut, just like there's a reason nobody tried to trade for Stephon Marbury, they waited till he got bought out.
4 rings
what pisses me off is that they waited so long to do it.
I don't think they should have cut TO to begin with, but if you are going to do it, then do it quicker so you can start looking around for guys like TJ Housmsahaskjdkhd.
Roy Williams and Crayton as the #1 and #2 make me cringe.
maybe they did it for a reason try and teach TO that it is better to lose millions than to have him on your team
Yeah because TO has proven to be the difference maker in that regard.
-SpursHaveFourRings
+1
They are going to have to trade for someone or draft a player, because with what they have left receiver wise is pretty bad.
lol, copying mike rhyner
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From the resident capologist on DallasCowboysZone and on KFFL on the cap hit.
Didn't hurt us that much at all.
ware money.
Don't think we're done cutting either though.
the point is... how much did TO actually hurt the cowboys?
not enough to warrant paying an extra $9.5 mil for absolutely no services whatsoever, as opposed to having a somewhat controversial reciever who is still a damn good player and one of the best offensive weapons the Cowboys have, on a very inconsistent offensive squad.
it was a stupid move. fact is, cutting him will not get the team over the hump to win a le. team chemistry was not the issue. injuries played a HUGE part in last seasons failure. do you really think the Cowboys would have lost to the ing Rams had Romo not been hurt? just ONE win is what separated them from the playoffs. Not having TO doesnt instantly guarantee the team any more wins than before, which is even more reason why this move is ing re ed.
another thing that was a big problem, was lack of effort and determination. TO always gives effort, and that he has some of the best work ethic of any player in the league. i don't see how cutting him would solve that problem either.
of all the problems there were with the Cowboys, in all reality, TO was very possibly the smallest one. unfortunately Jerry and the Cowboys have such fragile psyches that they let the media get to them and make them believe that getting rid of TO would actually make them better. no ing way they make the playoffs now, especially in such a good division where you have two teams that are Super Bowl caliber (Giants/Eagles) and another team that could very possibly be of that caliber this year as well (Redskins). And there is still the Vikings, Cardinals, Panthers, Falcons, Bucs, Packers, Saints... all competing for playoff spots.
cowboys are ed.
If the Cowboys turn into a run 1st pass 2nd offense, then this move makes sense. They have 3 quality backs. You dont need a superstar WR to win a superbowl in this league. Ball control O and a clutch playmaking D is whats needed.
Dumb raiders fan thread starter must not have heard that Oakland may take a serious look at signing T.O.
The TS also must be out of his mind if he thinks Cowboys management gives any consideration to Bobby Carpenter's status in the lockerroom on any football decision relating to another player. That stiff is so bad if he and TO were the issue and the only issue, Bobby would already be working at McDonald's with the dumb Obama guy in FL who wants free medical care.
Get a clue Raider guy.
Please fix the thread le Moderators. It's not within policy
Neat.
You obviously missed the point about what Barbie Carpenter did, you dimwitted stick.
I don't care how it happened or what it costs. Jerry has made a point in the last few months to express his desire for the team to head in a fresh and renewed direction. Whether TO is truly a distraction or not is inconsequential because no matter what he does good or bad he's a focal point of controversy. That in of itself, warranted or not, is something this team could do without.
TO was the only one with a sack that told he sucks and he does. Son of Bum sure as isn't. Simpson better bring Big D a parade in February.
Jerry has done no such thing, and what he'd been saying the last six months reflects that. He's finally being outvoted by his coaches and staff, as well as getting advice from people he trusts, and to his credit he's finally listening to them. He actually said the other day that Parcells approved the acquisition of TO, which is probably the biggest lie he's ever told. He brought in Owens and Jones on his own to try to exorcize the demons that haunt him for not drafting Randy Moss. They were both failed experiments in talent vs character, and perhaps he's gotten that out of his system.
I agree, however, that it doesn't really matter whose idea it was or how it happened. As long as the little is gone, I'm perfectly happy to concede that Jerry made it happen. TO would never have left if Jerry hadn't decided he needed to go.
No I did not miss the point stretch. Can you write a sentence or a thread le without dropping Fbombs? You might sound a little less like a punk and little more like an adult.
I live in Dallas and have forgotten more about the 'Boys than you'll ever know. I have heard NOTHING about anything Bobby Carpenter did or did not do to Owens. Even if he did it should not matter given his status (or lack thereof) on the team. You did not make a lucid point regarding that in your post.
Owens is a rotten teammate. Dallas was as good a place to play as there is (for him) and he let his own interests get ahead of the team when he is a 35 year player who may have lost a step. Not only must a team win for him to not complain - he must be the absolute center of the passing game. If the team loses some he will gladly throw anyone and everyone under the bus and show no accountability whatsoever for his own play. This guy has done the same thing three times now so he will never change - he will never grow up.
Injuries did ruin their season, and their is no question that ESPN has some sort of weird agenda to air anything negative about the Cowboys they could to bring them down - they hire a full time reporter (werder) to snoop around 24/7. ESPN flies a reporter down from Philadelphia (the blowhard Stephen A. Smith) before the Giants game. The purpose of this was to interview Owens (who would not speak to Werder) with the hopes that the interview would be after a loss and owens would continue to blast everyone and remain blameless.
This situation was not workable anymore. Jerry Jones tried as hard as he could, but TO did what he always does and blow things up. JJ is very willing to give difficult personalities a chance - it worked for two years but when TO got a contract extension last year (given out of fear he would complain without it last year) it instead made TO mistakenly believe he could speak out and throw his teammates and coaches under the bus.
Jones was convinced that the 2008 roster in place was going to get over the hump and the money given to TO was rewarding him for a great 2007 season. Owens was poisonous anyway - dividing the lockerroom as he always does.
Jason Witten's problem was that he is a better, more reliable player than owens and TO couldn't take it. TO's a great talent (the talent will be missed no doubt), but the baggage is just too much and wears everyone around him out. If it can't work for TO in Dallas, it will work nowhere.
There still is no reason shown in your post to believe that cutting TO will solve anything.
Trade him to who? Nobody wants to sign him now that he's released so there was no way anybody was going to give something up for him. He's in the process of being blackballed.
It might not solve anything, but it probably will keep several new problems from needing to be solved. That's a start.
Same here. I listen to sports talk radio in Dallas just about every day and I'd never heard this Bobby Carpenter story until I read this thread, and it makes no sense whatsoever.
i do believe the offence will improve, the boys going to work hard and they going to be motivated.
-LakersHave14Rings
Cutting TO solves the problem that TO is on the team. That's good enough for me.
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