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i understand what user is trying to say... there is a difference in saying your country is wrong, or you are anti-war, or you hate bush... but nbadan goes overboard and gloats when terrible things happen to the u.s.... that is the difference
Not true. Dan is just one of those types of people who are drawn to "causes" to fill an inner-void, I presume. It gives him a sense of purpose, much like his political evil twin, the NeoCon.
I don't think Dan hates America; he just loves belonging to a cause, and I regard his very selective use of facts as a sign of disrespect to individuals everywhere.
i understand what user is trying to say... there is a difference in saying your country is wrong, or you are anti-war, or you hate bush... but nbadan goes overboard and gloats when terrible things happen to the u.s.... that is the difference
everything, but provide us with the EVIDENCE... everything, but give us unfettered access... i'm glad you believed saddam nbadan...
you probably have never read any of dans other posts...
what "evidence" do you have of Dan gloating about something terrible happening to the US? show me something if its so prevalentbut nbadan goes overboard and gloats when terrible things happen to the u.s.... that is the difference
, I have no evidence of Al-Jazeera gloating.
Where can we go from here?
Dan posts that makes them uncomfortable. That's it.
No, it's more like... he seems to enjoy being the bearer of bad news more than is proper. Almost as if he were capitalizing on it somehow.
I would like to know how it is that he gloats?? Many of yall constantly ask him "are you going to post your own opinions or just continue the cut and past deal?" so obviously he isnt gloating if he isnt offering his own opinion. He is in fact the most active poster on this forum, and maybe this makes yall uncomfortable since he posts things that are contrary to your own opinion.
P.S. I dont agree with some of the things he posts, but they sure make interesting reads.
That's your projection of what he's thinking. Posting that 1500 US servicemen are dead doesn't mean that he's glad that they are dead, but your reaction sure means that you don't want to see it or hear it, much like the Bush administration banning video of coffins rolling off the planes at Dover AFB. It makes war an easier sell if you sanitize it, and don't let people see what the real costs are.No, it's more like... he seems to enjoy being the bearer of bad news more than is proper.
I don't think Dan hates America; he just loves belonging to a cause, and I regard his very selective use of facts as a sign of disrespect to individuals everywhere.
What selective use of facts? If there is something worth mentioning in a topic we are discussing, I don't hesitate to present it whether it hurts my cause or not. The pictures of the shot-up Italian car is a good example. I do ent most of the news I present because if I always presented it merely as my own commentary, it just wouldn't carry the same weight with most forum readers. My way, the readers get to weight the realiability and the credibility of the news being presented at the same time.
IMHO, Dan posts things that won't get reported on FoxNews so it upsets the Bush lovers.
So, because my opinion differs from yours it means that I "don't want to see it or hear it"? It can't possibly mean that I don't mind seeing or hearing it, but I have a different take on it?
I could also come on here every day and post new from Drudgereport. I have a feeling that that would make Dan very "uncomfortable"
dan, you're the king of only posting select information and leaving out tons of relevant in order to make the u.s. look bad. you have been busted many times...
What selective use of facts? If there is something worth mentioning in a topic we are discussing, I don't hesitate to present it whether it hurts my cause or not. The pictures of the shot-up Italian car is a good example. I do ent most of the news I present because if I always presented it merely as my own commentary, it just wouldn't carry the same weight with most forum readers. My way, the readers get to weight the realiability and the credibility of the news being presented at the same time.
First off, there was a lot of "intelligence" that came from outside that US that supported WMD and the other issues. Those have beenproven wrong now, since none have been found, but look at what Blair and others said before the war.
Even if there were no WMD, I don't believe that to be the sole reason for going into Iraq.
Oh really? You mean we had a surplus of money just like Enron did? Or we had a balanced budget just like Worldcom? Oh, I guess it's easily forgotten that all this prosperity was going on BEFORE 9/11, or BEFORE a huge number of major corporations had large financial troubles. Of course uncertainty over the war has hurt the economy. But don't act like Bush is totally to blame for it. If you have a job that deals with international customers, you would know how quiet things got on September 12. Some major events have taken place that had big impacts on the economy.
I agree totally TBC! But when you criticize people for things that are; A) Not their fault. or B) with biased data and halve truths, you're not being true to your country. When you rather see your country fail, than your political opponent win, you are a traitor to your people.
If Kerry had been elected, I wouldn't be here spouting off ridiculous rants about him. I wouldn't be on the verge of wishing my country to fall apart, just so I could say I was right. That is what Dan is about in this forum.
I welcome criticism of any politics or ideas. Look at the discussions about the mayoral candidates or the rail system. Those are honest discussions about important topics. People there are sharing passionate, yet real points of view. I rather have that any day over the petty little pot shots that we get drowned with from Dan. With Manny and others, they can back their takes up with facts and numbers. They don't run and hide or change the subject when cornered.
It makes me uncomfortable when people post halve truths or cooked numbers to support totally proposterous ideas.
Great, the Fox news bit again. I don't watch Fox news. I don't even know what channel it is on. I find it funny that people who seem to ridicule it so much make up most of it's viewership. I don't love Bush, just like I didn't hate Clinton.
Newsflash: Yonivore isn't here anymore. We don't need Dan to cancel him out!
i think dan just likes attention and seeing everyone get so offended and angry. just a theory.
eh, Drudge is a waste of time, but if you want to post NeoCon propaganda I will be happy to rip it to shreds.I could also come on here every day and post new from Drudgereport. I have a feeling that that would make Dan very "uncomfortable"
Everyone should take note that my biggest critic, User666 has a tendency to disappear for days at a time from the forum. One has to wonder whether the political forum bit really isn't his game (he can't handle the heat), or whether that is the type of political forum everyone really wants?If Kerry had been elected, I wouldn't be here spouting off ridiculous rants about him. I wouldn't be on the verge of wishing my country to fall apart, just so I could say I was right. That is what Dan is about in this forum.
When have you ever posted something you can claim as your own?
User666 welcomes political ideas that don't directly contradict his own. This is why he finds Manny's local and state posts so benine. He has no dog in that fight. I commend Manny for taking such an active stand in the forum, but his threads aren't what keep drawing people back, yet - sorry MannyI welcome criticism of any politics or ideas. Look at the discussions about the mayoral candidates or the rail system. Those are honest discussions about important topics. People there are sharing passionate, yet real points of view. I rather have that any day over the petty little pot shots that we get drowned with from Dan. With Manny and others, they can back their takes up with facts and numbers. They don't run and hide or change the subject when cornered.
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