Amazingly, Ariza didn't get suspended so I'm not going to hold my breath on Stern doing the right thing about Odumb leaving the bench.
Also - if you check around the 6:52 mark you see what LO does when he leaves the bench - he tries to grab Ariza, not instigating. Roy then bumps him and he jaws until Rambis pulls him away. But the video shows LO as a peacemaker who could be considered still in the bench area.
Well when the Jazz are at home the refs don't call fouls so understandably the fans are a little mad when a player on the other team gets completely mugged and the ref actually blows the whistle.
Also Kirilenko gets charges on the other team whenever he wants by merely falling down. There are plenty of floppers (Manu, Nash, Oberto, Bell), but he's by far the worst.
So you agree he left the bench area?
lakaluva - I wouldn't say the case is closed yet. LO still can be suspended. But its not cut and dry at all. If he would have stepped on the court the answer would have been simple.
You're logic doesn't make sense. If they don't suspend Odom, it could be because the league loves those Lakers so much, and that's why they suspended those Suns, but not those Lakers.
What's the bench area? That's the question. How does the NBA define it.
Is Nash on the bench here? NBA players sit/lay in the area LO walked to all the time.
What's really funny about this video is that the Laker bench is not in the picture but Lamar is.
Amare looks like he's getting ready for a Jihad.
I would love to hear Stu Jackson explaining to Horford why he got suspended but Ariza didn't.
The rule, as best I recall, says nothing about the intent of the player leaving the bench. If that had been a concern, I don't think Diaw would have been suspended in 07.
And there CAN'T be a concern for intent, because that would undermine the purpose of the rule. The rule is meant to keep as few people involved in a skirmish as possible, both to allow the officials a better chance to break things up, and protect against escalation by outsiders. If you make an exception for peacemakers, you basically create the possibility for increasing chaos, not ending it; and you also create a situation where a bench guy with good intentions can get into the skirmish and then heat things up even more.
If Odom left the bench area, he should be suspended. Period. There was clearly an altercation -- the first key question for applying the rule -- so Odom was prohibited from leaving the bench area, no matter what. I think the league should attempt to define the term "bench area," but if the definition is "in the immediate vicinity of the bench," then I think Odom did leave the bench area and MUST be suspended.
Manu doesn't flop nearly as much as he used to (which is partially why I don't hate him as much) and yeah in most situations he does it because he knows the other player is a head case, Amare being the most obvious example.
So if a fight started then Nash automatically deserves a suspension?
If it was so clear-cut, why hasn't LO already been suspended?
Agreed about intent. Just saying there has to be a question of whether or not that part of the baseline is the bench or not. And with that a question, the league will (rightly or wrongly) have intent in mind when they choose.
Is this a trick question?
You need better glasses because LO isn't in that picture.What's really funny about this video is that the Laker bench is not in the picture but Lamar is.
haha announcers are funny... ing homers.
The floor is defined by the court and crossing the lines. LO didn't do that, nor did he go into the crowd. In fact, the video shows he's approximately at the 3 point arc - where we see many of players there every game waving towels trying to distract the other team while shooting.
I got you.You need better glasses because LO isn't in that picture.
No surprises here, just the league playing favorites like it's supposed to do.
I mean, we did all witness the 2006 Finals right? When Stern and his crooked refs decided D-Whistle the primadonna wheelchair who doesn't deserve his ring and had a fluke Finals and is a sex addict is more worthy as the face of the league than an unconventional, unmarketable German PF?
Again, no surprises here, just the league favoring who it's supposed to favor.
The only difference was the Horford didn't wear purple and gold.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3153850
This is hilarious if you think LO didn't jump into the altercation.....he shouldn't avoid a suspension merely out of good luck that the altercation happened near the Laker bench.
If Diaw deserved a suspension for quickly jumping up and yanking Amare back near the bench.....then LO undoubtedly deserves a suspension for this.
Amare arguably did worse than LO since he walked further away from the bench than LO with ill will intended, but Diaw undoubtedly did less than LO.
I never said LO shouldn't be suspended. Just pointing out at how its not cut and dry.
I think he does end up missing a game but that will have more to do with pressure on the league after Bynum and Ariza got off after putting people in the hospital.
But there has been an underlying current this year of the league letting more physical things go and the penalities being lighter. Makes me think they want to get back to the 80s.
Wow..you are the definition of bag homer idiot..
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