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    Part of it is no more new good ideas
    The other part of it, is that the cost of making movies has skyrocketed, and they want to make something they know bovine america will go flock to and spend hard earned money on.
    Which is why I don't spend a single dime on all this remake bull when its at the theaters. It's also why I never spent a single penny on that abortion of a transformers movie.

    The only way they will start taking gambles again is if you people stop supporting this remake horse .

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    The subsequent films were good if you took them for what they were. It's easy for us to say they all sucked now, but they pretty much established the comedic-horror genre that has become commonplace, non existent, and revived the past decade and a half or so..

    Noone went into the nightmare films after part 2 expecting more of the same. The director was not the same either.
    The films after Part 2 DID suck. All they did was hurt the horror movie genre, they revived crappy movies, then we started getting all the "I Know What You Screamed Last Summer" trash.

    There hasn't been a great true horror film in a while. Everything nowadays is targeted toward the younger hipper crowd, stupid music, comedy American Pie horror films. They hurt the genre. And I'm not saying the rest of the Freddy franchise sucked "now" after the fact. I thought they sucked then.

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    part 4 was horror genious at work!!!

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    The films after Part 2 DID suck. All they did was hurt the horror movie genre, they revived crappy movies, then we started getting all the "I Know What You Screamed Last Summer" trash.

    There hasn't been a great true horror film in a while. Everything nowadays is targeted toward the younger hipper crowd, stupid music, comedy American Pie horror films. They hurt the genre. And I'm not saying the rest of the Freddy franchise sucked "now" after the fact. I thought they sucked then.
    You have to look outside the U.S., but there is still good horror out there. I think it was Spain put out Rec (I didn't bother with Quarantine), Japan still puts out some good ghost stories and I hear France is coming into it's own in the horror genre also. One of the movies I've got on the Netflix queue is Let the Right One In, the original (Swedish) version. That one got some great reviews.

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    If you remake crap, it's still crap ...

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    part 4 was horror genious at work!!!
    Not to get OT, but every time I look at your av I expect your le to read, "I killed a man - with this thumb."

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    The films after Part 2 DID suck. All they did was hurt the horror movie genre, they revived crappy movies, then we started getting all the "I Know What You Screamed Last Summer" trash.

    There hasn't been a great true horror film in a while. Everything nowadays is targeted toward the younger hipper crowd, stupid music, comedy American Pie horror films. They hurt the genre. And I'm not saying the rest of the Freddy franchise sucked "now" after the fact. I thought they sucked then.
    You are not seeing the forest for the trees. The movies after part 2, along with the concomitant Friday 13th movies, formed a new genre. One that I have come to appreciate. Like I said, if you take them for what they are....

    How old are you? It's easy to say they sucked, on a flat out superficial level, if you wanted a "real" horror movie. And "real" meaning what would be expected prior to ~1985. But after around that time, the genre changed, and was perfected (unintentionally..), with F13th and Elm St. movies...No doubt they pumped out these movies to make money, but my point remains.

    I'll never pass up a chance to see an unedited rerun of these movies. This "genre" later became an even bigger joke in the 90's. But by then, it was a lampoon of a lampoon. And that's just gay IMO. And looking back, it's easy to lump movies like Scream 2 with Elm St. 4, when they are totally different for people like me.

    BTW, Child's Play 3 was by far the greatest of the 90's verison of this "genre" and note how it came out in early 90's. I can't even begin to tell you how much that movie made me laugh when I first saw it. But it was a good laugh, because it was supposed to make you laugh.

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    You are not seeing the forest for the trees. The movies after part 2, along with the concomitant Friday 13th movies, formed a new genre. One that I have come to appreciate. Like I said, if you take them for what they are....

    How old are you? It's easy to say they sucked, on a flat out superficial level, if you wanted a "real" horror movie. And "real" meaning what would be expected prior to ~1985. But after around that time, the genre changed, and was perfected (unintentionally..), with F13th and Elm St. movies...No doubt they pumped out these movies to make money, but my point remains.

    I'll never pass up a chance to see an unedited rerun of these movies. This "genre" later became an even bigger joke in the 90's. But by then, it was a lampoon of a lampoon. And that's just gay IMO. And looking back, it's easy to lump movies like Scream 2 with Elm St. 4, when they are totally different for people like me.

    BTW, Child's Play 3 was by far the greatest of the 90's verison of this "genre" and note how it came out in early 90's. I can't even begin to tell you how much that movie made me laugh when I first saw it. But it was a good laugh, because it was supposed to make you laugh.
    That's my point. I don't want to laugh going to see a horror film. In my opinion, I think making horror movies like that has hurt the genre.

    I'm 29 and I'll be making my first movie later this summer. It's a comedy though. I have a few horror films I plan on doing, but my horror films are gonna pay homage to the old school horror movies like the first Nighmare movie, Poltergeist, Pet Semetary, The Exorcist, Silver Bullet, etc. No comedy in them. Comedy will be in my comedy.

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    in Friday The 13th. Another reason MICHAEL BAY SHOULD NOT BE MAKING MOVIES.

    What's next? raiser by this bag???




    Freeze me now. Thaw me when Bay, Ratner and Schumacher are ing dead and no longer raping movie franchises.
    I think he's busy raping the Conan franchise:

    http://www.imdb.com/ le/tt0816462/

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    That's my point. I don't want to laugh going to see a horror film. In my opinion, I think making horror movies like that has hurt the genre.

    I'm 29 and I'll be making my first movie later this summer. It's a comedy though. I have a few horror films I plan on doing, but my horror films are gonna pay homage to the old school horror movies like the first Nighmare movie, Poltergeist, Pet Semetary, The Exorcist, Silver Bullet, etc. No comedy in them. Comedy will be in my comedy.
    Too bad. I'm afraid everything scary that can be done has pretty much been done. That's why you see those ridunkulously lame torture porn "horror" movies like Saw, Hostel, and all the cheaper ripoffs. Americans have run out of things to be scared about.

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    Too bad. I'm afraid everything scary that can be done has pretty much been done. That's why you see those ridunkulously lame torture porn "horror" movies like Saw, Hostel, and all the cheaper ripoffs. Americans have run out of things to be scared about.
    I don't think so, I just think the talent to make them has been lost. And the standard has been lowered very much. I can never run out of ideas.

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    I think it was Spain put out Rec
    Great freakin movie.

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    I don't think so, I just think the talent to make them has been lost. And the standard has been lowered very much. I can never run out of ideas.
    Americans are just scared about different things now. If a movie came out this weekend about the world economy crashing and civilization being wiped out as countries revolted against their governments and each other - an "every man for himself" scenerio - people would come out of there scared sh*tless . It just wouldn't be "scared" in the traditional sense.

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    Great freakin movie.
    I have Rec lined up on netflix for the longest but they don't ing have it. Been wanting to see that movie since someone here made a thread about it.

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    I have Rec lined up on netflix for the longest but they don't ing have it. Been wanting to see that movie since someone here made a thread about it.
    Don't give up. It's worth the wait.

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    I think he's busy raping the Conan franchise:

    http://www.imdb.com/ le/tt0816462/
    So they finally decided on remaking Conan? They were floating around ideas of making a third "King Conan" movie with Vin Diesel or The Rock as Conan's son...

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    Slightly OT, but I finally watched Kingdom of the Crystal Skull last night and I have to agree with the "South Park" line of thinking - Indiana Jones was indeed horribly raped.

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    you didn't even have to watch the movie to know that. Dude Shia LeBouf was in it.

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    Ha ha ha ha he was

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