Wow. I can practically hear my mother screaming![]()
Wow. I can practically hear my mother screaming![]()
True but some are addicted
Does that increased life expectancy cost more or less than treating most of them for lung cancer?
Addicts kick the habit all the time.
I wouldn't say cigarette addicts kick the habbit all the time. Maybe crack heads but not smokers. They generally smoke until they die or the doctor says "stop or you will die"
Really? I've known people that have maxed out their health insurance benefits going through chemo/radiation/surgeries/etc for long periods of time, which is sometimes $2-3 million.
I quit after smoking for about 25 years or so ... just because I felt like it, and I know lots of other people that have, too. So yeah, people kick the addiction all the time. Jacking the price up the last time, though, was a big motivator for me ... I can't lie.
Everytime you see a doctor they'll tell you to quit smoking or you'll die ... that's not limited to imminent terminal cancer situations.![]()
Yep, but then we're back to the "consent" point. If they choose not to quit smoking...
Nah, I don't really know. It's an interesting question, though.
BTW, I believe only 14-15% of smokers actually get lung cancer. You'd have to broaden the scope and include smoking related illnesses.
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Fair enough - although I have to wonder just how many smokers would get lung cancer if something else didn't get them first. My grandfather smoked for 60+ years, and lung cancer is what finally got him, but it didn't develop until the last 2 years of his life or so (as he was still smoking).
and your source of information for this is?
No source, just an opinion. I doubt you could get a definitive answer either way.
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It wouldn't have been hard to figure if you actually read the thread.
But since you wanted one:
http://www.alliedquotes.com/Insider/...nce-costs.html...healthy individuals on average had lifetime health care costs of $417,000, compared with $371,000 for obese individuals and $326,000 for smokers, according to the study.
I don't know why, but I love me some second hand smoke. I was never able to enhale ciggarete smoke (too rought on the lungs), but I love the act of smoking.
With that being said: ciagretts are bad for you: proven fact. What I don't understand is the hatered for smokers. It seems to me that its more acceptable these days to shoot up heroin then to light upa ciggarette every one in a while.
This reminds me of the SOuth Park EPesode: Death Camp of Tolerence, for those of you who follow the show.
Personally, there are a number of factors for why I hate smoking so much - 1) my association with it is of my grandfather in his 70s hacking up phlegm and coughing death rattles all over the house. 2) The more I am away from smoke, the more vile it smells to me when I finally smell it again, and it gives me horrible headaches.
That being sad, I don't make it a point to proactively tell people, "You know that's bad for you, right?" And some smoke is worse than others - my best friend used to roll her own tobacco and it never offended me as badly as a pack of Camels (though she has since quit smoking).
What I hate about smokers? The believe that because they chose to smoke I have to smoke too (second hand smoke) then when you tell them to go some place else to smoke they about people not respecting their rights.
This happens to me at school at least one a week, people will sit next to you in the lobby, that is a non-smoking zone, and light one. After you get tired of coughing from having all that smoke in your face and asking them to either get rid of it or got smoke to another place, they either ignore you or to you.
I don't care how badly you want to hurt yourself, just don't get me involved in it.
If by older generations you mean the last thousand years or more.
I think I saw an article a week or so ago saying after this 60ish cent raise another one is coming along right behind it. Def screwing over a certain group in ordre to pay for something else. Booze is going the same route I beileve.
Glad I quit too, but the longer I go (7 months now) the harder it's getting.
I love how everythign will get better faster if you quit smoking. I would go to the doc for like falling and bumping my head and he'd say "you would heal faster if you don't smoke. and this wouldn't have happened if yuo didn't smoke" etc
good point
hahaha owned
Nice job! My Dad smoked for 45 years and 6-7 years ago they told him straight up,"You will die within a year if you don't stop today". He did and it was tough on him. He has a clean bill of health from the doctors. He is 66 years old and doesn't have lung cancer,breathing problems, his heart is now in good shape thanks to a simple operation. He is in good shape.
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