More Hope and Change

[sook]

This budget is a text book example of failure to perform risk mitigation. Even if the economy recovers faster than anyone is expecting, we will have a budget deficit that our nation can't manage. This will lead to hyper-inflation which will make all the saving everyone is dong completely moot.

Libs dont care because theyve spent too much time thinking just how "presidential" Obama looks!!!

This nation is so ing trendy it deserves everything it gets. Next time just elect Michael Douglas or Morgan Freeman and be done with it.

Zimbabwe's inflation rate last year, over 10 mil % I, heck, i heard they even have a trillion dollar note now

[xrayzebra]

Actually, the graph shows actual CBO calculated deficits during the Bush Administration. That'd be the Congressional Budget Office.

You'll notice the light pink bars are where the OBAMA administration tried to fudge the projections...but, the CBO did the hard math.

But, but, Obama said tonight, there would have to be some adjustments.
And estimates are just estimates. Of course he forgot to add that
CBO is notorious for being way low it's estimates.

And that was about the jest of his "news" conference. He didn't answer
one real question.

But he didn't use a teleprompter, he used a TV instead. What a guy,
technically always right. So you gotta listen real close to what he says.
Like he is going to fix the high cost of health care by increasing the
amount spent. Only a lawyer could come up with an answer like that,
see children, that is how you solve the debt problem.

It is all the Republicans fault anyhow, they don't have a budget.
that is what he said.

[Gino]

McCain looked like a lying idiot and he lost the election because of that. He lost the trust of the people.

You'll have to give me the exact date they said the economy is to recover and the dates the money reaches the economy. Then I can believe the question is valid.

Timeline of economic recovery spending:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020100154.html

Only 64% of the spending will have occurred by September.....of 2010!!!!

In its budget, the administration predicted the economy will shrink by 1.2 percent this year but snap back and grow by a solid 3.2 percent in 2010.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...ypkrwD96K63100

Its SPIN time Chumpy.

[johnsmith]

LOL at my country.


I've known many people in my industry that sound really smart and then when it comes down to it.....they suck at their job. I've known may people in my industry that sound like idiots.......they suck at their job.

The President is no different. We had an idiot in the White House for 8 years, he ed things up. We have an idiot (that is good at speaking in public) and he sucks at his job.

America has not leadership because the truly intelligent folks that actually care........they are busy avoiding being ed by our government.

You guys are funny always trying to one up eachother by saying "well, Bush was worse", or "Obama sucks"...........They all suck. But the part that makes me conservative is I like my money, and I'm not too stupid too recognize that just because a bunch of 20 something Manny type folks cry at a speech, doesn't make a good President.


you guys, and this part of spurstalk.com because it is exactly the same as congress.

Spurstalk.com political forum = partisan s that would never accomplish something in the real world because they are too concerned about being right or wrong.

[xrayzebra]

I have said in the past that the times of expansion like that during most of the Bush years wasn't a time to be running up deficits. It's right here in this forum. As soon as the economy tanked, there wasn't much else to be done but spend.

Obama is a liberal. One expects spending from a liberal. Did you guys elect Bush to run up the deficit during a time of economic expansion?

I'll answer for you because I know you won't: No, you didn't.

Holy smokes, Chump. You have listen to Obama and his gang too much.
Nothing left to do but spend. And do it now, before you read anything,
now, or we are all going to die. Well what has changed, we have
spent and things are changed: for the worst.

So Obama is a liberal, so it okay for him to spend. Thank you for
that valuable insight into finance.

[ChumpDumper]

Timeline of economic recovery spending:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...020100154.html

Only 64% of the spending will have occurred by September.....of 2010!!!!



http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...ypkrwD96K63100

Its SPIN time Chumpy.

So you lied when you said none of the money will have been spent.

That was expected.

Nice attempt to move the goalposts, though.

[MannyIsGod]

Yet you felt it necessary to post. Nothing proves how above something you are more than joining in.

[johnsmith]

Yet you felt it necessary to post. Nothing proves how above something you are more than joining in.

Sucks when you make a post that makes no sense because others posted before it.

Now shut off your computer you silverback looking bag.

[johnsmith]

Manny, when are you going to contribute to society?

[ChumpDumper]

Holy smokes, Chump. You have listen to Obama and his gang too much.
Nothing left to do but spend. And do it now, before you read anything,
now, or we are all going to die. Well what has changed, we have
spent and things are changed: for the worst.

So Obama is a liberal, so it okay for him to spend. Thank you for
that valuable insight into finance.

The part you didn't get was that bush spent like a liberal too. You were lied to and ed in the ass and you liked it.

And you still don't understand it.

[Gino]

So you lied when you said none of the money will have been spent.

That was expected.

Nice attempt to move the goalposts, though.

Ehhhh...when did I say none of the money will have been spent?

My Post:

Has anyone, besides me, asked why we passed a 700 billion dollar stimulus that doesnt even spend much money until the year the white house expects the GDP to grow by 4%?

It was 3.2%, not 4. But youre claiming that I said none of the money will have been spent which is a complete fabrication.

Now apologize!!!

[johnsmith]

At what age is appropriate to give up on the dream of being a life long student and actually make a difference on this Earth?

[xrayzebra]

LOL at my country.


I've known many people in my industry that sound really smart and then when it comes down to it.....they suck at their job. I've known may people in my industry that sound like idiots.......they suck at their job.

The President is no different. We had an idiot in the White House for 8 years, he ed things up. We have an idiot (that is good at speaking in public) and he sucks at his job.

America has not leadership because the truly intelligent folks that actually care........they are busy avoiding being ed by our government.

You guys are funny always trying to one up eachother by saying "well, Bush was worse", or "Obama sucks"...........They all suck. But the part that makes me conservative is I like my money, and I'm not too stupid too recognize that just because a bunch of 20 something Manny type folks cry at a speech, doesn't make a good President.


you guys, and this part of spurstalk.com because it is exactly the same as congress.

Spurstalk.com political forum = partisan s that would never accomplish something in the real world because they are too concerned about being right or wrong.

Ahhh, john, I fear we have angered you.

Could we have some of your Conservative philosophy? This old
Conservative would like to learn more. Other than Bush inheriting
a recession and having 9/11 come down on his watch, what else
did he screw up?

[johnsmith]

When do you accept the fact that you've done nothing to better mankind and just kill yourself?

[johnsmith]

All these questions are directed at Manny by the way?

[ChumpDumper]

LOL at my country.


I've known many people in my industry that sound really smart and then when it comes down to it.....they suck at their job. I've known may people in my industry that sound like idiots.......they suck at their job.

The President is no different. We had an idiot in the White House for 8 years, he ed things up. We have an idiot (that is good at speaking in public) and he sucks at his job.

America has not leadership because the truly intelligent folks that actually care........they are busy avoiding being ed by our government.

You guys are funny always trying to one up eachother by saying "well, Bush was worse", or "Obama sucks"...........They all suck. But the part that makes me conservative is I like my money, and I'm not too stupid too recognize that just because a bunch of 20 something Manny type folks cry at a speech, doesn't make a good President.


you guys, and this part of spurstalk.com because it is exactly the same as congress.

Spurstalk.com political forum = partisan s that would never accomplish something in the real world because they are too concerned about being right or wrong.

Is this a retirement speech?

I give it a C-.

[MannyIsGod]

Sucks when you make a post that makes no sense because others posted before it.

Now shut off your computer you silverback looking bag.

Manny, when are you going to contribute to society?

It obviously made sense since you figured it out. I mean it couldn't have been that hard to figure out if you managed to do it. But in any event, I see how above it you are. Your so above it you keep posting here. Please keep replying to show us all how you're above all of this.

[MannyIsGod]

Is this a retirement speech?

I give it a C-.

LOL you think he'd leave? Yeah right.

[ChumpDumper]

LOL you think he'd leave? Yeah right.

That's why he got the minus.

[Gino]

Chumpy, you owe me an apology.

Be a man.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumpy, you owe me an apology.

Be a man.

My su ion that you were being disingenuous with your question was accurate.

You owe me an apology.

[johnsmith]

Ahhh, john, I fear we have angered you.

Could we have some of your Conservative philosophy? This old
Conservative would like to learn more. Other than Bush inheriting
a recession and having 9/11 come down on his watch, what else
did he screw up?

Ray,

Bush didn't really inherit , stop lying about that. He did start a war that while I don't necessarily disagree that we should have gotten into eventually, maybe this wasn't really the right time. Not only that, but there are many military experts out there that said long before the Iraq war actually started that we should absolutely not invade Iraq because it was Russia Vs. Afghanistan like..........and since we were already in a Russia vs. Afghan like war, this probably wasn't the best time.

Now, having said all that, I will readily throw out there that Clinton Admin, are the ones that demanded more FHA type loans (good call fellas) and that Saddam was a mass murderer so these weren't Bush's fault.

However, I think most folks of my generation also think the anti-stem cell research, abortion, gay marriage, and many, many social issues should not only not be governed, but should certainly not be governed by a bunch of 60 year old white guys that are so out of touch with reality, they make baby-boomers look normal, sane, and productive.


There is a happy medium in government and from the looks of it, we will never find it until it's too late. This forum is a wonderful example of how ed up our government is because we have a bunch of normal folks that get so mad at the other side about a few issue that we can't even come close to agreement on the REAL ISSUES.

So again, go yourselves.

Manny, go out and do something positive to this Earth because no one is going to give a that you learned a lot of worthless from professor's that only think one way.

Love,
Johnsmith

[MannyIsGod]

Whats more pathetic? People who use a forum for entertainmet or those who declare they hate a forum but can't stay away?

[johnsmith]

Manny, What's more pathetic? Someone that didn't really try that hard in college and has accomplished a truck load in the real world and has actually helped mankind, or someone that has spent all his money and time in college, done nothing with his life, and claims to be the end all on common sense because he got a "B+" in philosophy?

[johnsmith]

Sorry, forgot to add the obligatory that you seem to be so fond of.