Melmart1 owned whottt so hardcore that I almost considered becoming a Rangers fan again.
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From 1994 to 1999 they wore red and finished the season first in the division or won the wild card 4 times.
they never won a wild card, they won the divison in 96,98,99 in 94 they were in first place when the stike happened but never won the wild card
i did like the red better but dont really care or thank it matters
Interesting...so when did you first jump on the bandwagon and when did you first jump off?
A shame you won't jump back on...because teams can always use additional bandwaggoners.
And Melmart hasn't owned anything except herself...standings don't lie, and I was a Ranger fan before she was even born. I've forgotten more about the Rangers than she will ever know....
The Blue Uniforms are cursed and she has jack evidence to prove otherwise, and the fact that she belittles supers ion puts her at odds with about 90% of the players to ever play the game. It's the game most rooted in supers ion of all the pro-sports. She'd probably talk to a guy throwing a no-hitter between innings.
And it's relevant why? Does the difference in anyway change the point that everything they've accomplished in terms of divisional and post season success(sic) was done in the Red Uniforms, or are you just trying to prove how anal you are?
i did like the red better but dont really care or thank it matters
You can join Melmart in the line of people that don't understand what dark colors do to you in the Sun...there's your science if you want it.
Go look at people that work outdoors in the summer...see how many of them wear black or blue.
Besides...who wants to be the Dodgers anyway? At least the Angels haven't done outside of a world series win...so if the Rangers win one their colors will be ones they have a claim to...as opposed to the Doger Blues.
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I'm just tired of the Rangers teasing their fans. They stay in it until the All Star break then completely implode and suck the rest of the season. If they are going to be in the hunt for the division or wild card, I want to see them at least be compe ive until September.
It's the blue jerseys..the fade always begins with the heat rising.
the past few season the Rangers biggest problem is getting in huge holes in April. If this team could at least play .500 ball in April and not .300 ball they will be much better off. Last season this team was within few games of the wild card 2 weeks into August despite the awful pitching and ridiculous amount of injured pitchers. When Murphy and Kinsler got hurt the season turned for the worse.
Also, im not saying the Rangers pitchers are even considered average but as long as their not having to bring up guys from A-ball to start this season, like Tommy Hunter last year, the pitching will be better. Look, with this offense, the pitching doesnt even have to be good...it could be below average and this team will still win plenty of games. However the pitching cannot be good awful like last season.
IMO the Rangers are better than the A's whom everyone seems to be jumping on their bandwagon again....Rangers are still behind the Angels but the gap is closing. I dont expect a division le this year but I expect their to atleast be some heat put on the Angels as they wont coast to a 21 game victory in the AL West
Like I said, if winning the division to get swept in the playoffs = success, then I guess you and I have different definitions of success. By that standard, the Utah Jazz should go back to the uniforms they wore in the 1990s, when they looked great in the standings but never a world championship. I bet Kirilenko would look great in those short shorts.
Cursed?The Blue Uniforms are cursed and she has jack evidence to prove otherwise, and the fact that she belittles supers ion puts her at odds with about 90% of the players to ever play the game. It's the game most rooted in supers ion of all the pro-sports. She'd probably talk to a guy throwing a no-hitter between innings.Is this like the Rangers version of the Curse of the Bambino? The Curse of the Bluniforms. You wanna know why I don't believe in this supers ion? Because once again, winning the division to get swept means jack in terms of success. There can't be a supers ion about winning if the supers ious item in question (red jersey) never won anything!
Oh, and let me just touch on the "science" of the blue uniforms for a minute. This might hold some water if the Rangers wore the blue unis everyday. But they don't. In fact, in the hottest months, you will often find them wearing white from head to toe:
And even a sleeveless white shirt that looks pretty damn thin and cool:
In fact, out of four uniform choices each year, only one has a blue jersey, and it wasn't used very often in the hottest of months. The starting pitcher chooses which uniform they wear. So blame the pitcher, not the uniform.
Only in whottt worldd does playoff sweep=success and white uniforms in august=blame the blue uniforms. Next thing you know, he will be advocating putting horns on the front of the batting helmets, since unicorns are magical, just like red uniforms.
The Rangers really do need to think about playing in a dome though. The heat isn't a huge excuse, but it can't help.
Sucks because The Temple is the best thing about the Rangers.
Who are the best young pitchers in the Ranger's organization? And who can possibly help this season? Nefi Perez?
What ever happened to that Diamond kid the Rangers drafted a while back?
Neftali Feliz and Derek Holland could both be up by the All-Star break. They are pretty much ready and both have the potential to be total studs. Feliz can throw in the 100s when he is on, his heat is plain nasty.
As for Diamond, he spent parts of 2007 and 2008 recovering from TJ surgery. He is still in AAA and had a NRI but isn't going to make the team. He could be a good call up later if needed, though. But he hasn't quite gotten it together since coming back from the surgery.
Ah Feliz, don't know why I was thinking Perez. Hopefully his stuff is that nasty once his call up comes and the Rangers can stay relatively healthy. I think they are one stud ace and a couple of solid rotation guys away from having the talent to contend. Then it'll just be a matter of getting consistency and clutch performances.
Yeah, I hope Feliz and Holland at the very least pan out. You are right about what is missing from a good crack at contention. I think Feliz and Holland can be those pitchers, but it will be a tough learning curve. Just gotta have patience.
The hats are blue....and as a wise(and supers ious) man once said, 90% of the game is half mental. Part of the reason our teams sucks in August is because the players play like their brains are overheating...and they just might be.Like I said, if winning the division to get swept in the playoffs = success, then I guess you and I have different definitions of success. By that standard, the Utah Jazz should go back to the uniforms they wore in the 1990s, when they looked great in the standings but never a world championship. I bet Kirilenko would look great in those short shorts.
Cursed?
Oh, and let me just touch on the "science" of the blue uniforms for a minute. This might hold some water if the Rangers wore the blue unis everyday. But they don't. In fact, in the hottest months, you will often find them wearing white from head to toe:
And even a sleeveless white shirt that looks pretty damn thin and cool:
In fact, out of four uniform choices each year, only one has a blue jersey, and it wasn't used very often in the hottest of months. The starting pitcher chooses which uniform they wear. So blame the pitcher, not the uniform.
Only in whottt worldd does playoff sweep=success and white uniforms in august=blame the blue uniforms. Next thing you know, he will be advocating putting horns on the front of the batting helmets, since unicorns are magical, just like red uniforms.
Besides, it was Nolan that made the call on the Red Unis....he probably did it for marketing reasons, but he is above questioning by mere mortals.
And thirdly...yes, I consider making the playoffs to get swept a far superior result to not making them to not get swept...but I'm funny that way and tend to rate making the postseason above not making it. Silly me.
And finally...the Angels have worn blue too.
Rangers should go back to the powder blue's
So now it's the hats! I swear, if I were to disprove the hat theory, then you would blame the socks -- "well, the stirrups are blue, and the Rangers play like their feet are overheating, so it's still the blue's fault."
Ahhh, the whottt special. Make up an arbitrary rule in order to discredit the person who he is arguing with. Nice try. Desperate, but nice.Besides, it was Nolan that made the call on the Red Unis....he probably did it for marketing reasons, but he is above questioning by mere mortals.
So because the Angels did it, we should too? If the Angels go and sign flukey players like Gary Matthews, Jr to an albatross $50 million contract, should the Rangers start doing that, as well?And thirdly...yes, I consider making the playoffs to get swept a far superior result to not making them to not get swept...but I'm funny that way and tend to rate making the postseason above not making it. Silly me.
And finally...the Angels have worn blue too.
And if simply making the postseason is a success in your eyes, then the red uniforms are a good idea. But the Rangers have never won a playoff series wearing red, so if the history that YOU are so fond of holds up, the Rangers really have just as good a chance of playoff success in blue as in red. Because ... and follow along with me, now ... the Rangers have had ZERO playoff success in red. The same as the blue.
In terms of colors, I think motivation to succeed should be incorporated into the color scheme. Here's my idea: every game the Rangers are not in 1st place the position players should be required to use the Mother's Day pink bats, the pitchers a bright pink glove, and pink hats for everybody. At least if they're going to play like puss's they can look like them too.
God loves Josh Hamliton and wants him to succeed and continue to spread his message....what bigger stage is there than the World Series? therefore the Rangers will win the World Series this year
I just would like to see the Rangers at least finish with a winning record. They've only had a winning record once this decade. I think that was in 2004. 2004 was probably their best season in this decade.
i was reading today that they move flederman to the bullpen and have benson in the rotaion. I like that move if they do it
i cant wait for the first game
Obviously the hats were always included. As were the jerseys, as were the undershirts...Red is aggressive blue is passive, already said all this stuff or at least alluded to do it, before you ever even chimed in with your opinion.
Well darlin' I don't know...why don't you actually disprove something and we'll see? There's no way to know until you actually do so.
I swear, if I were to disprove the hat theory, then you would blame the socks -- "well, the stirrups are blue, and the Rangers play like their feet are overheating, so it's still the blue's fault."
Historically speaking(of the Rangers)
Red = post season
Blue = not.
By all means...disprove away.
What's arbritrary about it...Nolan is the guy behind it. He knows more about baseball than either one of us.
Ahhh, the whottt special. Make up an arbitrary rule in order to discredit the person who he is arguing with. Nice try. Desperate, but nice.
You are the one saying that...you are the one wanting us to wear blue, just like the Angels, and the Dodgers and the BlueJays etc.So because the Angels did it, we should too?
Probably not. Anything provably stupid that the Angels have done, the Rangers shouldn't do if they know it's stupid. Unfortunately for you, wearing red has nothing to do with that, at least at the factual level. Factually speaking, they do better in red and the impetus behind wearing that color has nothing to do with the Angels.If the Angels go and sign flukey players like Gary Matthews, Jr to an albatross $50 million contract, should the Rangers start doing that, as well?
Agree...and if not making the post season at all is a success in your eyes, then the blue uniforms are a good ideaAnd if simply making the postseason is a success in your eyes, then the red uniforms are a good idea.
And they've never made the playoffs in blue.But the Rangers have never won a playoff series wearing red,
At least the Rangers get the chance to lose in the post season in Red...as opposed to not doing squat in blue.so if the history that YOU are so fond of holds up, the Rangers really have just as good a chance of playoff success in blue as in red. Because ... and follow along with me, now ... the Rangers have had ZERO playoff success in red. The same as the blue.
And to be fair...it's only the Yankees that have beaten them in red, and all 3 times the Yanks went on to win the World Series, 2 times via sweep and in fact, 2 of those series the Rangers did better against the Yankees than the eventual World Series losers did.
So basically they've been beaten by the eventual champs in red...in the playoffs, and no one else.
Yep, it gives them 2 guys in the pen that can pitch for multiple innings in Feldman and Jennings. Also gives them 2 extra starters so they dont have to go into the minors like last season if a starter gets hurt
The red jerseys were ugly. The blue ones are way better in my opinion.
30 years of mediocrity can never be better.
I'm about sick n tired of this MF'er...
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