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    I actually forgot how much of a bag Rosen is.
    I realize you needed to post Rosen's garbage on Robinson to prove a point, but damn... (It's bad enough my team looks like it's in need of a bedpan and a hug, do I really need to see that garbage on top of it?)

    Yeah, he's pretty good at what he does, for the most part, but his D-baggery tends to take away.

    I read Rosen a little like I do DX.

    You can get a good feel of a player or team by reading some pretty thorough and solid analysis by both, but I've found that the conclusions I draw from that analysis, usually differ.
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    I realize you needed to post Rosen's garbage on Robinson to prove a point, but damn... (It's bad enough my team looks like it's in need of a bedpan and a hug, do I really need to see that garbage on top of it?)

    Yeah, he's pretty good at what he does, for the most part, but his D-baggery tends to take away.

    I think that's nonsense. He may have ragged on a David Robinson and a couple of other Spurs at times by I don't think there is a team that can say he hasn't done that. His articles are insightful most of the time and well written. I usually agree with them on top of that, even if you may not, that's no reason to consider his writing 'garbage'.

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    Rosen is far from the best journalist covering the NBA. He can break down a game better than a lot of them, but his writing is boorish and error prone. I would rather spend a day reading washed out Bill Simmons articles about his BFFs with cliched Bostonian names and his fanatical anecdotes about how he took two ambiens and made a Tom Brady hair doll in his sleep means the Patriots are really gonna go 19-0 this time.

    Honestly though, a few people on this site have the talent to put ESPN out of business if they started a blog and kept up with it on a regular basis.

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    Rosen is far from the best journalism covering the NBA. He can break down a game better than a lot of them, but his writing is boorish and error prone. I would rather spend a day reading washed out Bill Simmons articles about his BFFs with cliched Bostonian names and his fanatical anecdotes about how he took two ambiens and made a Tom Brady hair doll in his sleep means the Patriots are really gonna go 19-0 this time.

    Bill Simmons is mediocre at best and nowhere near as well written as Rosen's stuff. I'll read his too cause it has an opinion most of the time, even if its not backed up by anything. Simmons rarely covers the NBA to add to that.

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    Bill Simmons is mediocre at best and nowhere near as well written as Rosen's stuff. I'll read his too cause it has an opinion most of the time, even if its not backed up by anything. Simmons rarely covers the NBA to add to that.
    Unwrap the sarcasm off of my last post and you will see I am not holding Simmons as highly as you think I am.

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    I think that's nonsense. He may have ragged on a David Robinson and a couple of other Spurs at times by I don't think there is a team that can say he hasn't done that. His articles are insightful most of the time and well written. I usually agree with them on top of that, even if you may not, that's no reason to consider his writing 'garbage'.

    What about that post is nonsense?

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    Your sarcasm is well hidden sir. I could point you to a place which would help you to employ such a technique properly.

    Rosen is on Fox btw. Slightly less terrible then espn.

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    Yeah, he's pretty good at what he does, for the most part, but his D-baggery tends to take away.
    That was nonsense.

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    To be sure, i'm not certain what you mean by his "D-baggery", and that is what I think is nonsense.

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    That was nonsense.
    Rosen is pretty good at what he does.

    Rosen is also a D-Bag for the type of shots he's taken at Robinson when Robinson had long since retired, and not had anything to do with what he was writing.

    Nonsense?

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    Well, as I already wrote, I haven't seen these 'shots' at Robinson so I can't really comment on that. All I can say is that they can't have been too recent because I have been reading most to all of Rosen's articles.

    I may not agree with those judgments but I will not call someones body of work D-baggery because of a few articles about a single player. That is what I think is nonsense.

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    Well, as I already wrote, I haven't seen these 'shots' at Robinson so I can't really comment on that. All I can say is that they can't have been too recent because I have been reading most to all of Rosen's articles.

    I may not agree with those judgments but I will not call someones body of work D-baggery because of a few articles about a single player. That is what I think is nonsense.
    Did you not read timvp's post?

    Don't worry, I'm sure Rosen will oblige you with some more RECENT shots at D. Rob, with his impending induction to the H.O.F.

    Every once in a while, even D-Bags have something good to contribute, but it's a lot harder to take notice because, well...

    They're a D-Bag.

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    Rosen won't be mistaken for a sublime poet, but IMHO he is a very good analyst.
    why is the fact, that he uses single games to get some conclusions about a team such a problem? the fact that he's pretty much at the point shows that he's good at what he does. he doesn't need to cover the whole season of a team to see more than all the blog writers do. (and yes, he's not the most noble writer out there. some of his shots are cheap and uncalled.)

    it starts with some little observations like the one about Mason.
    yes, we don't need to guess about his confidence or if Pop's experiments broke his rhythm. the guy is simply worn out. in his short NBA career Mason played 113, 43, 285, 492 and 1708 minutes per season. (plus a negligible total of 185 playoff minutes).
    this season he already worked for 2280 minutes. you don't build the ability to survive a full 30 MPG NBA season by just working on the tread mill. you do it by playing heavy minutes for several seasons, especially if you are not an elite athlete to begin with.
    I'm pretty sure Pop saw this coming when he started to look for a different role for him. it maybe wasn't the question about the back up PG in the first place. it was the search for a rotation spot with lower minutes and work load for Mason.

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    Did you not read timvp's post?

    Don't worry, I'm sure Rosen will oblige you with some more RECENT shots at D. Rob, with his impending induction to the H.O.F.

    Every once in a while, even D-Bags have something good to contribute, but it's a lot harder to take notice because, well...

    They're a D-Bag.

    I did read his posts but Rosen's 'cheap shots' at one NBA player don't make me dislike his writing as a whole. Just because I don't agree with certain opinions of his doesn't mean everything he says is garbage. In fact, most of what he says is accurate and interesting, and that is why I like Rosen as an analyst.

    And while Rosen is no poet, no sports writer is... he's a solid writer compared to others in his field.

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