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Which the Spurs wouldn't have won if they'd finished with the seventh or eighth best chance instead of the second.
what makes you think Duncan had a say in the matter? He went to the team with the winning lotto number.Duncan probably wouldn't have been a Spur if Pop hadn't fired Hill,
as far as who coached?
I don't think it mattered who was coach in *99 the Spurs were killing teams left and right with their defense and they could score at will. Sequ could have coached them that year.
In fact if you look at the games you will see Avery calling the shots.
Which the Spurs wouldn't have won if they'd finished with the seventh or eighth best chance instead of the second.
but you made it sound like they knew they was getting Duncan.
If you think they tanked under Pop, you've been reading the msm and weren't watching the games. Under Pop, that team got after it defensively - played hard every night - which wasn't the case under Hill.
When your best offensive option on a NBA team is a 43 year old Dominique Wilkins, you're not going to win a lot of games.
Why the are we still talking about this?
WHAT ?? You are wrong on all sorts of levels.
First off, here's the roster Pop took over:
1 Cory Alexander
33 Greg Anderson
40 Joe Courtney
15 Vinny Del Negro G
32 Sean Elliott
14 Jamie Feick C
4 Devin Gray
4 Darrin Han
7 Carl Herrera
34 Stephen Howard
6 Avery Johnson
8 Tim Kempton
11 Vernon Maxwell
9 Gaylon Nickerson
41 Will Perdue
50 David Robinson
35 Jason Sasser
Charles Smith
21 Dominique Wilkins
3 Monty Williams F
David played 6 games that season and Sean played in 39. They were injured most of the year.
What makes you think Pop would put his reputation on the line with that bunch ? If I recall, he took over 18 games into the season. He actually did Bob Hill a favor.
In addition, the Spurs finished with the 3rd worst record in the league. Both Boston and Vancouver had a higher percentage chance to land Tim Duncan.
Your take is weak. Pop fired Hill because Hill sucked. He then decided to put his money where his mouth was and coach this team that he put together.
All the way until the end of the season, his team played hard and hustled. They only gave up 98 pts per game. They just couldn't score, they had no weapons but Pop was laying down his defensive philosiphy.
Pop has good taste.
Yes, they were both "injured". Lucky for us in retrospect that the team was so extraordinarily snake bit.
Pop had no reputation, he had been an assistant coach and he needed an excuse to take over, so he did it before the Spurs started winning. It made complete sense. I'm extraordinarily glad he did it, I'd rather have Pop than Hill any day of the week. I never even said that I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to pretend it was something other than it was, and that's the way I called it at the time.
Vancouver couldn't get Tim Duncan unless someone else was picked first. They were an expansion team and couldn't pick higher than second. If you're going to pick a fight with me, don't mistake me for someone that would miss a detail like that.
My take is based on what I observed at the time. I'm not sure why you have such a problem with it, although it your breath smells like Pop's ass while you're ranting. One might suggest that those of you that are so rabidly against anyone even suggesting that the Spurs tanked are guilty of "protesting too much".
I listened to virtually every game that year, and I'm aware that they played their asses off. Dominique deserves a lot of credit for how hard he played for a 20 win team. He never took a game off, and as far as I know, he never ed. However, if you're going to suggest that Pop didn't make that coaching change for any other reason than his own personal interests, you're just as crazy as if you suggest there weren't a lot of nights that guys sat with injuries they could normally have played with. You should be thanking Pop for doing it, because the Spurs would likely have zero les if he hadn't.
That said, the Spurs' ping pong ball not only came up first in that draft, but it also came up second. You might say that they were destined to get Timmy no matter what.
His own personal interests ??? Yeah, like actually being successful and winning a ring some day ? Bob Hill buried himself when we got blown out by the Jazz.
If Pop regretted anything about the way he handled Bob Hill's firing, it might have been that he didn't do it after they got demolished in the playoffs.
That's about it. Bob Hill got out classed and out coached and the Spurs were picked apart. Pop was already in charge as the GM. He could have been the head coach to begin with but hired Bob Hill instead. He had nothing to gain by taking the coaching responsibilities and everything to lose.
He took over an injury riddled team and did what he could to win games and improve. Who exactly did he hold out of the line-up with a minor injury in order to tank games ? I think David had a broken foot. That's not the type of injury you ask someone to play through.
I'm not sure what Sean's injury was but the bottom line was that he wasn't going to make things that much better. Boston had 14 wins and we had 20. We only had a 20 % chance of getting the 1st pick.
he wanted to draft KVH.....
Yeah, Rodman was a major reason why we lost that series.
Sean Elliott was also out for an extended period of time. We had a 37-year old Dominique Wilkins carrying the team for us back then.
Who Gives a Flying ?????????
That pretty much says it all right there...
in addition to him being a bad coach, i heard another big reason was he stole money from the spurs organization.
I also heard he laid a huge dukey in the boys urinal..
mmm kay!
You don't carry much of an argument. Some players may have rested she. Their injuries weren't bad enough to keep them out of games had wins a been needed? That's tanking? I might agree that this ace aril could have occurred, but not the analysis.
As for Spurs getting Tim, Patino had a much better risk than Pop had in the scenario. Pop seems too conservative for that kind of gamble.
Sorry , iPhone on ST has issues.
Are you from MavTalk?
I recall channel surfing late one night, and I clicked past one of those Tony Robbins infomercials...that included Bob Hill and the Spurs.
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