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    Huh? Waive Hairston? Hmm

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    Waiving a player like Udoka or Vaughn wouldn't have been more costly for Spurs.
    Spurs weren't high enough on Hairston to keep him over Vaughn.
    Vaughn sucks.

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    Waiving a player like Udoka or Vaughn wouldn't have been more costly for Spurs.
    Spurs weren't high enough on Hairston to keep him over Vaughn.
    Thats obvious, but that doesn't mean the Spurs are right.

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    So they pick a guy who modeled his shooting form after Bill Cartwright
    Well, Demps said the thing they like the most about Marcus was his passing.

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    Thats obvious, but that doesn't mean the Spurs are right.
    Personally, I would have waived Vaughn and kept Hairston.

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    Well seems like everyone is down on this. IDK enough about the play of hairston and williams. When Ive seen hairston on the court he's alright, always looks slow...watched both in college. I just hope is Marcus gets some PT he represents UA well. You never know maybe he gets some time and really steps up. Either way, it isn't a game changing decision or anything-spurs felt williams could maybe help them more right now (or just to secure) so they did it. I trust it.

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    does he eligible to play in the playoffs?

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    On defensive potential and athleticism alone, I like Hairston much more than Williams. Williams is borderline too slow for the NBA. Hairston, on the other hand, has just gotten more and more athletic as he's shed his baby fat.
    williams has the potential to play good defense. he has the athleticism and quickness needed so if coached correctly, he can really develop into an above average defender. i believe he was usually assigned against the best opposing perimeter player in college.

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    Well, Demps said the thing they like the most about Marcus was his passing.
    So the Spurs are going to use him at point-power forward. Fantastic. Somewhere Anthony Mason just rolled over in his grave.

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    williams has the potential to play good defense. he has the athleticism and quickness needed so if coached correctly, he can really develop into an above average defender. i believe he was usually assigned against the best opposing perimeter player in college.
    I disagree with each sentence. His athleticism is average at best. His quickness is about on Udoka's level. And in college, he mostly defended bigs.

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    Personally, I would have waived Vaughn and kept Hairston.
    Exactly, but personally I would also not be playing Vaughn and Pop has decided he's in the rotation. It makes no sense how highly the Spurs regard Vaughn at this moment.

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    What would be interesting is whether or not Mahinmi would have survived the cut if it weren't for the fact his contract is guaranteed for next season.



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    Yeah, Williams would technically be eligible for the playoffs.

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    SOB . Freaking JV.....why?

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    Good news for Ian !

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    Personally, I would have waived Vaughn and kept Hairston.

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    They kept Vaughn because they don't trust Hill nor Mason as the backup PG if they really need someone to spare Parker. Vaughn does a decent job, but I agree, I would have kept Hairston over Vaughn. I loved Hairston's fearlessness and how he would go up to block shots.

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    I don't know where the view that malik is the better defender or has more of a defensive upside came from. Marcus was always assigned the other teams best player during his time with the toros. Guarding Will Conroy and playing him very effectively. Defensive footspeed is not his problem. He is not an overly athletic player but is a very good decision maker out of Pick and roll. And much more versatile offensively than Malik.

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    williams was projected to be a top 20 pick back then but fell because of his poor late season performances. i don't watch d league games but i do remember scouts heralding his versatility and length before the draft. i wouldn't doubt his potential and ability to play, just his work ethic and ability to be coached.

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    They get paid to make stupid decisions. Are they hiring?

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    Waiving a player like Udoka or Vaughn wouldn't have been more costly for Spurs.
    Spurs weren't high enough on Hairston to keep him over Vaughn.
    Of course.

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    Exactly, but personally I would also not be playing Vaughn and Pop has decided he's in the rotation. It makes no sense how highly the Spurs regard Vaughn at this moment.
    True. But it also makes no sense how highly the Spurs (Pop) regard Finley, at any moment.

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    Spurs add Williams, waive Hairston
    By Jeff McDonald

    Marcus Williams is a Spur for a second time.

    In a move perhaps geared more toward the future than toward the present, the Spurs announced they have signed Williams for the rest of the season, and have waived Malik Hairston.

    Williams, a 6-foot-7 swingman in his second professional season, was an All-Developmental League selection for the Austin Toros, averaging 23 points, seven rebounds and 5.3 assists. He was the league's performer of the week for the week ending March 30, after averaging a triple double.

    Williams was a 2007 second-round pick of the Spurs, but did not make the team out of training camp that year. He signed with the team at midseason, and appeared in one game before being waived again. He finished the season playing 10 games with the Clippers last season.

    Hairston followed a strikingly similar path to the Spurs. He was a second-round pick in 2008, acquired in a draft-day swap with Phoenix, but did not make the Spurs out of camp. The Spurs signed him later in the season, and Hairston appeared in 15 games before being re-assigned to Austin.

    With the maximum of 15 players under contract, the Spurs had to waive Hairston to clear room for Williams.

    This swap of Toros is likely to have little effect on the Spurs this season. Gregg Popovich puts a premium on experience. Even with Manu Ginobili out for the year, it is difficult to envision a newly arrived young player like Williams making much of an impact in the postseason.

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    Personally, I would have waived Vaughn and kept Hairston.
    If Pop doesn't see a future here for Hairston, then he lied to us. Because the day he drafted the three (Hill, Gist, Hairston), he indicated that he expected all to be significant parts of the Spurs future. I certainly hope no one picks up Hairston between now and July 1st.

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    Naturally someone will pick up Hairston and he will blow up while Williams ends up in the Guatemalan league and Jacque Vaughn is selling cars within the year.

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    This is confusing because didn't they sign Malik to the last roster spot for exactly the same reason they just signed Williams - to protect his rights? If they want both players for next year, and I hope they do, simply trim off one of the veteran bench players, who isn't expected to be here next year and one who is in the final guaranteed year of their contract.

    After all, what's the point in mortgaging part of your future just to keep around a veteran, that is likely not to garner any playoff burn? That's lunacy. Oh I forgot.
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