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    The problem is they could not even qualify for EuroBasket last summer. They need Tony to try to even get there.
    If they can't qualify without him, Parker should realize his team is never going to amount to anything.

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    http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/new...9829/arti.html

    14/04/2009
    FRA - Parker signs letter of engagement with French

    PARIS (FFBB) - Tony Parker has committed to play for France through the summer of 2012.

    The San Antonio Spurs point guard met with Patrick Beesley, the head of the men's basketball team, and sports manager Crawford Palmer before a recent game against Cleveland and signed a letter of engagement.

    Other players counted on by national team boss Vincent Collet will also need to sign the letter of engagement in the coming weeks.

    France will this summer attempt to win the Additional Qualifying Round for EuroBasket 2009 in Poland.

    They will go up against Italy and Finland in Group B, with the side that finishes top to take on the winner of Group A - Bosnia and Herzegovina, Belgium or Portugal.


    Good luck Tony and please stay healthy
    Can somebody tell me how with the amount of talent that France has, they've never done too well? they should be fighting for championships in all the events they participate.

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    [quote=EricB;3289148]
    Third off, the er wasn't even BORN there, and NEITHER OF HIS PARENTS ARE FRENCH.

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    Chill out Eric and try to understand the other side instead of yelling and writting non sense like the er wasn't even born there. He is French deal with it.

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    You've got a contractual obligation to your employer. If you're going to accept millions, there needs to be some concessions on the players part. The country you're being paid in is irrelevant. Tau has every right to be upset about Splitter if he runs off to play for Brazil, just like the Spurs do with Tony.
    Then write it into the contract and see if they sign.

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    Can somebody tell me how with the amount of talent that France has, they've never done too well? they should be fighting for championships in all the events they participate.
    1. because other international teams are far more talented
    2. other Euro national teams have been top basketball nations for much longer than France

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    Parker has a ton of miles on him at 26. He's going to be broken down by 30 unless he start resting in the summers. Olympics I can understand but not every scrub tournament every summer.

    You filthy american, how dare you.

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    do you know how you get qualified for the Olympics in Europe ??
    Obviously. But if France can't even get into the tournament that becomes the tournament to quality, that's a sign your team sucks and won't win it with Parker's help.

    I've watched a ton of France games over the years. Their main issue is their role players are horrible around Parker. Even Diaw turns into the ultimate choker and Turiaf gets exposed. They have to learn how to win on their own before even thinking about adding Parker to the mix to try to make a serious run in any serious tournament.

    They could theoretically run Parker into the ground to get in but that strategy isn't going to mean anything once the talent level is even.

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    I've gotta agree with T-Park here. Business is business. You've got a contractual obligation to your employer. If you're going to accept millions, there needs to be some concessions on the players part. The country you're being paid in is irrelevant. Tau has every right to be upset about Splitter if he runs off to play for Brazil, just like the Spurs do with Tony.

    I do think that we are naturally biased towards our own national teams however. I don't recall anyone ing when Timmy played for the US team. I think more would be cheering for Parker if he was playing for the US national team.

    While I cheered for the US team and cheered for Tim on the team, I hated him being there, and it wore him out for that 04 05 season as well, leading to his injuries near the end of that season.

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    1. because other international teams are far more talented
    2. other Euro national teams have been top basketball nations for much longer than France
    The Argie national team isn't more talented, neither the German, Italian or Greek. IMO The U.S and Spain are the only teams with more talent on their rosters.

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    If they can't qualify without him, Parker should realize his team is never going to amount to anything.
    the french NT is certainly not good enough to win the Olympics and probably not the European tournament. does it mean that we don't even need to try to get qualified and participate ? i don't think so.


    if all the NBA stars should only play when their teams has a chance to win it all, or at least to get far in the PO, half of them would never be seen on the court.

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    I've gotta agree with T-Park here. Business is business. You've got a contractual obligation to your employer. If you're going to accept millions, there needs to be some concessions on the players part. The country you're being paid in is irrelevant. Tau has every right to be upset about Splitter if he runs off to play for Brazil, just like the Spurs do with Tony.

    I do think that we are naturally biased towards our own national teams however. I don't recall anyone ing when Timmy played for the US team. I think more would be cheering for Parker if he was playing for the US national team.
    Bull crap. It is business. It is an open market. The Spurs entered into a contract with Gino knowing full well he could play for his country. Manu did nothing to breach his contract.

    If Manu playing for his country was that big of a deal, then the market would reflect that and he would be considered more risky which would lead to: 1) the Spurs never making him his current offer 2) lowering their offer or 3) another team making an offer that is willing to take on the risk.

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    [quote=Brazil;3289177]
    Third off, the er wasn't even BORN there, and NEITHER OF HIS PARENTS ARE FRENCH.

    quote]

    Chill out Eric and try to understand the other side instead of yelling and writting non sense like the er wasn't even born there. He is French deal with it.

    How is it nonsense?

    Its the TRUTH!

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    Obviously. But if France can't even get into the tournament that becomes the tournament to quality, that's a sign your team sucks and won't win it with Parker's help.

    I've watched a ton of France games over the years. Their main issue is their role players are horrible around Parker. Even Diaw turns into the ultimate choker and Turiaf gets exposed. They have to learn how to win on their own before even thinking about adding Parker to the mix to try to make a serious run in any serious tournament.

    They could theoretically run Parker into the ground to get in but that strategy isn't going to mean anything once the talent level is even.

    They ran him into the ground last time, and then horribly mismanaged his damn finger injury.

    Then hurt his ankle and wanted him to play on THAT.

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    Where the is ducks, is what I want to know.

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    Then write it into the contract and see if they sign.
    Bad choice of words. I should have stated "moral" obligation, but the word might lead most to be highly cynical about it. Yes, employees have moral obligations just the same as employers do. These need not be explicitly stated.

    Take money from someone, agree to keep yourself healthy and not run up the mileage on your body. It's just the right thing to do. Like timvp said, the Olympics is cool, but every scrub tournament is excessive.

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    I've gotta agree with T-Park here. Business is business. You've got a contractual obligation to your employer. If you're going to accept millions, there needs to be some concessions on the players part. The country you're being paid in is irrelevant. Tau has every right to be upset about Splitter if he runs off to play for Brazil, just like the Spurs do with Tony.

    I do think that we are naturally biased towards our own national teams however. I don't recall anyone ing when Timmy played for the US team. I think more would be cheering for Parker if he was playing for the US national team.
    I've been against it since Robinson suited up after the Dream Team. I was against Duncan playing. I didn't even want Pop to coach because it'd burn him out.

    It's not a national thing with me. If something lowers the Spurs' chances of winning a championship, I'll be against it.

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    Tony does not have to play. If he feels he is too tired or they have no chance, he can sit out.

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    France NT summer is very busy. If things went well, Parker will play 10 weeks with them between July 12th and September 20th.

    Parker is right now tired after a season with Spurs where he carried the team. If Spurs goes far in these playoffs, I don't know how Tony will be able to have a strong season in 09-10.

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    Bull crap. It is business. It is an open market. The Spurs entered into a contract with Gino knowing full well he could play for his country. Manu did nothing to breach his contract.

    If Manu playing for his country was that big of a deal, then the market would reflect that and he would be considered more risky which would lead to: 1) the Spurs never making him his current offer 2) lowering their offer or 3) another team making an offer that is willing to take on the risk.

    Wich ended up being re ed and stupid.


    You wanna get paid millions by the US based NBA team? Then show them the equal dedication that they are showing you.

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    It's not a national thing with me. If something lowers the Spurs' chances of winning a championship, I'll be against it.
    So you hate Shaq's mom?

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    Wich ended up being re ed and stupid.


    You wanna get paid millions by the US based NBA team? Then show them the equal dedication that they are showing you.
    And you invested in that stupid company

    He does not want to get paid millions, he IS getting paid millions. The Spurs knew what they were getting.

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    Bull crap. It is business. It is an open market. The Spurs entered into a contract with Gino knowing full well he could play for his country. Manu did nothing to breach his contract.

    If Manu playing for his country was that big of a deal, then the market would reflect that and he would be considered more risky which would lead to: 1) the Spurs never making him his current offer 2) lowering their offer or 3) another team making an offer that is willing to take on the risk.
    Any bets on how the market will react after this season?

    Also, you draw an incorrect conclusion since the market has never sen a situation like this before.

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    Obviously. But if France can't even get into the tournament that becomes the tournament to quality, that's a sign your team sucks and won't win it with Parker's help.

    I've watched a ton of France games over the years. Their main issue is their role players are horrible around Parker. Even Diaw turns into the ultimate choker and Turiaf gets exposed. They have to learn how to win on their own before even thinking about adding Parker to the mix to try to make a serious run in any serious tournament.

    They could theoretically run Parker into the ground to get in but that strategy isn't going to mean anything once the talent level is even.
    i definitely agree that the french NT sucks, unfortunately. i'm even more grateful to Tony for coming to play crappy games, against crappy teams in crappy places to just have a chance to participate to a tournament that we probably have no chance to win.

    and the french NT could have a more bright future with Noah, Batum and some others. but it will need tony playing for that to happen.

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    France NT summer is very busy. If things went well, Parker will play 10 weeks with them between July 12th and September 20th.

    Parker is right now tired after a season with Spurs where he carried the team. If Spurs goes far in these playoffs, I don't know how Tony will be able to have a strong season in 09-10.

    Exactly our point.


    After this season, after all the responsibilities, hes gonna go and carry that worthless pathetic team?

    Horse .

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    Any bets on how the market will react after this season?

    Also, you draw an incorrect conclusion since the market has never sen a situation like this before.
    No one has ever played in the olympics that has played in the NBA

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