Another high school shooting

[timvp]

Native American school shooting?

This will get like 1/10000000th the amount of coverage as that Columbine shooting.

[MannyIsGod]

I think gun control is a bad idea. At least the way it's enacted in this country. But I think people in this society needs to take personal responsibility for it's violent tendencies and try to figure out their root.

[MannyIsGod]

And yeah LJ, I agree 100% with that.

[NameDropper]

Dex is under 18 (I think) and smarter than most people in here. Nice.

Age has nothing to do with one's intelligence and to say one is smarter than someone else is whack.

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[Guru of Nothing]

I think gun control is a bad idea. At least the way it's enacted in this country. But I think people in this society needs to take personal responsibility for it's violent tendencies and try to figure out their root.

You want the root cause Manny? We live in a world where most people justify their existence by being better than someone else, and those who cannot express themselves will sometimes snap - hence the expression, "it's always the 'quiet' one." You can search and search for deeper answers, but the sad fact is, every once in a while, the quiet one is going to snap; and within our media driven society, the results, while not necessarily worse, will become more dramatic.

[Bluto Blutarsky]

You want the root cause Manny? We live in a world where most people justify their existence by being better than someone else, and those who cannot express themselves will sometimes snap - hence the expression, "it's always the 'quiet' one." You can search and search for deeper answers, but the sad fact is, every once in a while, the quiet one is going to snap; and within our media driven society, the results, while not necessarily worse, will become more dramatic.

Right on

[ALVAREZ6]

I think the American violence comes from the availabilty of many things, and less strict parents. Kids get the wrong image of things.

2 years ago, I remember when 2 brothers that live in California murdered their mom in an attempt to copy the Sopranos. They got the idea of the way they killed her from a certain episode from the show. People do stupid things.

What I think distorts the violence in the country is the population. There's a lot of people in the US, and with a lot of people comes a lot of dumbass morons that don't know anything about life.

Actually, I have no idea why this country has a violent society. This thread is interesting though, so people keep posting ideas, because I'm clueless.

[Guru of Nothing]

There's a lot of people in the US, and with a lot of people comes a lot of dumbass morons that don't know anything about life.

I'm not laughing with you Alvarez.

[ChumpDumper]

Comparing the gun homicide rates between the US and those European countries cited in the WSJ article is pretty laughable. Even if the gun homicide rate in Switzerland doubled it would be about 1/3 that of the US. If Germany's gun homicide rate grew tenfold it still wouldn't come close to that of the US.

This is not to say that gun control is the only answeror even an answer. You're much more likely to be killed some other way in Taiwan or South Africa than by a gun in America.

[ALVAREZ6]

I'm not laughing with you Alvarez.

You misunderstood what I said.

What I said was that in general, there are stupid people everywhere you go, no matter which country or region.

[Guru of Nothing]

You misunderstood what I said.

What I said was that in general, there are stupid people everywhere you go, no matter which country or region.

You misunderstood what I was said, but I will leave at that.

[Slomo]

Comparing the gun homicide rates between the US and those European countries cited in the WSJ article is pretty laughable. Even if the gun homicide rate in Switzerland doubled it would be about 1/3 that of the US. If Germany's gun homicide rate grew tenfold it still wouldn't come close to that of the US.

This is not to say that gun control is the only answeror even an answer. You're much more likely to be killed some other way in Taiwan or South Africa than by a gun in America.

I was going to say the exact same thing. That article is using statistics to prove something that isn't true. And although the data for the UK might be true for London, London is still way safer than most American big cities.

Lack of gun control is obviously not the only factor. It's just makes it a little easier on those "quiet ones" to secretly build up a stash of weapons that just begs to be used. Gun control prevents the "opportunistic" spur-of-the-moment cases - and that's already something, but not the solution to the problem.

You want the root cause Manny? We live in a world where most people justify their existence by being better than someone else, and those who cannot express themselves will sometimes snap - hence the expression, "it's always the 'quiet' one." You can search and search for deeper answers, but the sad fact is, every once in a while, the quiet one is going to snap; and within our media driven society, the results, while not necessarily worse, will become more dramatic.

Although it's a bit unfair, that is the image that today's USA is projecting. Many people I know (usually those who have had very little contacts of any sorts with America) feel that the States are imposing itself on everybody else and that American do think they are better than others.

What do you guys think about the theory that in today's fast paced, consumer oriented society, we are just not noticing the "not so well adjusted" or as someone described them the "quiet ones" and we are just leaving them behind. Should we increase our sensitivity and spend more time (and yes money) to make shure they are not left behind, or is it just a normal Darwinian occurence and this is humanity's way to root out the weakest links? And if we do take care of the quiet ones will they be able to contribute to today's society and we'll all be better off because of them or would they just be charity projects?

How about the fantasy image we all have about the future of our children (you know the succesfull quarter back or blonde cheerleader pictures of success that grow up to become captains of industry and beauty queens). Are we teaching our children that those are not the only "real" forms of success? And are they believing us? Could it be that we are preaching one thing and doing the other?

[Guru of Nothing]

What do you guys think about the theory that in today's fast paced, consumer oriented society, we are just not noticing the "not so well adjusted" or as someone described them the "quiet ones" and we are just leaving them behind.

I think "not so well adjusted" are noticed; that's how many people tend to measure themselves, and perhaps that is magnified in a high school setting.