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    Why can't they get Gooden and Sheed, exactly?
    No money... No way those two split the MLE.

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    Bring back PJ to keep Pop's head out of his ass.
    This! Even if this is the only thing the spurs can accomplish on the off-season I would say it would be a pretty successful off-season.

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    Spurs will have the cap room to match whatever the Rockets will realistically offer in 2010.

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    I will wait the end of the season before drawing conclusions and start talking about the offseason.
    +1021... We'd bury the Spurs if they didn't play the string out, so let's hold off these talks until the Spurs season officially ends.

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    +1021... We'd bury the Spurs if they didn't play the string out, so let's hold off these talks until the Spurs season officially ends.
    Take the homer glasses off. Even if we were to miracle our way to win this series. This team simple does not have what it takes to do anything significant this year.

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    No money... No way those two split the MLE.
    How are we over the salary cap with so many players potentially being off the books? I don't understand. You can sign one for the MLE, and pay the starter about 8 mill.

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    RA is a FA. He and ex spur Stephen Jackson are known to stick up for each other.

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    At this point though I think I would rather the Spurs re-sign Gooden over going after Sheed. I'm sad to say but I think Sheed is on a big decline right now. Have any of you been watching the Cavs-Detroit series?

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    How are we over the salary cap with so many players potentially being off the books? I don't understand. You can sign one for the MLE, and pay the starter about 8 mill.
    Doesn't work that way. The Spurs don't have Gooden's Bird Rights.

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    Pop did bring in Rodman so don't rule it out. Ron A would bring some much needed D

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    Bring in Gist, Hairston and give that one dude Mahimi one more chance.
    Pick up an athletic, above average free agent.
    Ditch: Bonner, Udoka, Vaughn and Fabs
    Keep: TP, Duncan, Manu, Mason, Gooden, Thomas, Mahimi, Bowen (role model for Hairston) Finely, Hill


    Give Hill a shot at PG, if doesn't pan out by mid season look for a better back up.

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    +1021... We'd bury the Spurs if they didn't play the string out, so let's hold off these talks until the Spurs season officially ends.
    Its over as much as I hate to say it.

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    They can't get Sheed and Gooden. They have no Bird Rights on Drew, so it's an either-or situation (though McDyess might be another interesting or for the situation). Finley will 100% be back with his full player option for next season.

    This is my pipe dream and I'm sticking to it :drink

    To those who say we don't have any pieces... we have 20 million in salaries that expire next season, over 30 if (gulp) you include Manu in that discussion.

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    In addition to bringing in the young guys, I wouldn't feel confident unless they picked up at least two stud free agents at the sg, sf, or c positions. Ben Gordon and and Artest are available. Is that too expensive? That'd be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 million between the two.

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    SPURS HAVE THE MLE
    that is like 5 million

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    At this point though I think I would rather the Spurs re-sign Gooden over going after Sheed. I'm sad to say but I think Sheed is on a big decline right now. Have any of you been watching the Cavs-Detroit series?
    Well, the big situation is complicated...

    I can't see them bringing in 'Sheed unless they get rid of Bonner one way or another. Perhaps they could send Bonner and something out and get back 'Sheed in a S&T... and then you can use the MLE on Gooden.

    Finish out the roster with Gist, Hairston, Ian, Sanikidze, Javtokas, whoever...

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    In addition to bringing in the young guys, I wouldn't feel confident unless they picked up at least two stud free agents at the sg, sf, or c positions. Ben Gordon and and Artest are available. Is that too expensive? That'd be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 million between the two.
    Outside of trades, the Spurs have about 5.5 million in the MLE they can offer.

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    SPURS HAVE THE MLE
    that is like 5 million
    Are you sure about that, how is that possible with finely, bowen, kt, vaughn, and ime being gone? And there's always going slightly over the luxury tax. Admittedly, I don't know about the salary cap and all the crazy rules, so excuse the noobness.

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    Ben Gordon is Finley a few years ago. Sheed is washed up.

    Artest is more of a D minded Pop type of player. And he matched up well against L. James, K. Bryant and P. Peirce. Like Bowen back in the day but he plays O.

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    JV, Bowen, Oberto, Finley should and need to all be gone.

    That said, here are some possible, unrestricted FA options that will be available this summer:

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    Jason Hart (Clippers)
    Mike Wilks (Grizzlies)
    Tyronn Lue (Magic)
    Ronnie Price (Jazz)

    SG
    Ben Gordon (Bulls)
    Dhantay Jones (Nuggets)
    Devin Brown (Hornets)

    SF
    Ron Artest (Rockets)
    Lamar Odom (Fakers)
    Jamario Moon (Heat)
    Trevor Ariza (Fakers)
    Luc Mbah A Moute (Bucks)
    Matt Barnes (Suns)
    Walter Hermann (Pistons)
    Anthony Tolliver (Hornets)

    PF
    Drew Gooden (Spurs)
    Rasheed Wallace (Pistons)
    Chris Andersen (Nuggets)
    Antonio McDyess (Pistons)
    Josh Powell (Fakers)
    Stromile Swift (Suns)
    Melvin Ely (Hornets)
    Chris Wilcox (Thunder)
    Pops Mensa Bonsu (Raptors)
    Michael Ruffin (Blazers)

    C
    Ryan Hollins (Mavs)
    Rasho Nestervic (Pacers)
    Courtney Sims (Suns)

    For purposes of this thread, I left omitted the obvious UFA options that do not make sense (i.e. Shawn Marion, Grant Hill):

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    They'll probably bring Radoslav back.

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    I can't wait to see Scola in a Spurs uniform.
    you mean tiago splitter right?

    we traded scola

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    Are you sure about that, how is that possible with finely, bowen, kt, vaughn, and ime being gone? And there's always going slightly over the luxury tax. Admittedly, I don't know about the salary cap and all the crazy rules, so excuse the noobness.
    http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

    Next year (09-10) we have:

    Duncan 22.1 million
    Parker 12.6
    Manu 10.7
    KThomas 3.8
    Bowen 4
    Oberto 3.5
    Mason 3.7
    Bonner 3.2
    Fin 2.5
    Ian 1
    George 1
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    Total 66 million (rounded off)

    Players whose deals ended this year:
    Gooden 1.4
    Vaughn 1.2
    Ime 1.08


    For perspective, the cap this year was 58.6 million, and reports are it will go down next year.

    Oberto continues to have heart issues, and some feel he will hang it up. That would clear 3.5 million. Finley will be back (sucks), he has a player option.

    So you can see we're already 8 million over the cap, and 5 million more puts you at the luxury tax threshold, which our owner (Holt) will never go over...

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    Its not off season yet....

    (If moves are not made and we run this team or anything resembling it three years of duncan will be wasted.

    pop is no dummy some trades will go down. I dont think they will involve Parker or Timmy and probably not even manu. More than half our team has expiring contracts for 2010, the odds of landing a big time FA are slim to none, the odds of trading 10-15 mill in expiring contracts for some good players are damn good.

    On a lighter note spurs should make a run for AI and Wallace! What a sick team)

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    The Spurs may have enough under the Lux Tax threshold to use their entire MLE if they are so inclined.

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