The Spurs cant afford to not give Barry minutes IMO because that is the only way he will break out of the slump. Shooters have to shoot to get their touch back. If Barry doesnt have his shot when we get to the playoffs, especially if Tim isnt healthy, its gonna look a lot like it did last year vs. the Lakers.
And I just remembered something else to dispel the pressure idea...
In 01 when the LA Lakers destroyed us( and did a good number on us during the regular season) and went 15-1 in the playoffs..the Sonics swept the Lakers that year. Those were big games to that team. I remember it now because that offseason I actually wanted the Spurs to go after Reuben Patterson.
Yeah that proves it isn't pressure.
That was five years ago and he was a bench player who averaged under nine points a game. That doesn't prove anything.
I'm still searching for hope that Barry isn't folding under the pressure.
What pressure? He is a back up guard on the team who has had the best record in the league for a large majority of the season. Perhaps what he needs is more pressure?
Oh, just cut the crap! The Spurs sucked this time around and we're all desperately searching for someone to pin the loss on.
The truth be told, everyone - and I mean everyone - contributed to the loss. If you were watching the game, you could see where the defence failed here or there, and the offence failed big time.
I'd like to sit here at home, with my oh-so-powerful hindsight and start laying the blame. Does the name Stoudemire (sp?) cross your mind? While we're busily blaming the Spurs' defenders, we're just not giving credit where credit is due. Here comes this guy, all fired-up, nailing 22 points while our guys just stand around in wonderment. It appears that he was unstoppable - and of course we were blessed with the curse of a man scorned (Malike Rose).
If nothing, this game (as well as the preceding game) should prove that Tim Duncan is the MVP - if not the league's, surely the Spurs'. We just seem helpless without him...
He led Oregon State to zero division championships and never led them to even the Sweet 16.
Pretty much what I suspected. I probably don't want to find their actual record.
Has there ever been such a rucuss over a bench player in the history of the NBA?
TimVP, if you want to see the definition of folding under pressure you need to rewatch what LA did to us in the WCF that year...We pretty much redefined the term.
How about the fact that he has never shot under 40% from 3 in the playoffs? With over half his shots being 3's? Including the year he played us and had Bruce Bowen defending him...
How about the fact that in 2000 he shot 40% against the Jazz and his team pushed the Jazz to the max in a series?
Is that a choke? We've never gone the max against the Jazz in a series.
When we are talking about Barry, we aren't talking about one game .. we are talking about what he's done (or hasn't done) all season.Oh, just cut the crap! The Spurs sucked this time around and we're all desperately searching for someone to pin the loss on.
The truth be told, everyone - and I mean everyone - contributed to the loss. If you were watching the game, you could see where the defence failed here or there, and the offence failed big time
To clarify my previous post, I've found that Barry never even led his team to the NCAA tournament.
Anyways, I'm going to keep hoping Barry finds "IT" before the season ends. If he can start draining shots and provide the outside shooter that is sorely needed, I'll be more than happy to float down a river barge with Whottt at the end of the season.
Barry just needs to get one of those head bands Devin wears.
I think Kori is right on, Barry has to earn minutes period. Brown has been too good, and Beno usually too lately to have him steal minutes. In the playoffs rotations shorten = he keeps playing like this he may not even see the floor and lets worry about getting his confidence back next year.
Oh, my god, Whott! That's exactly the way I feel! Barry's being played like a rookie - an unproven, maybe-he-can-do-it, off the bench type. If I were Brent Barry, I would be really upset by this turn of events. Now, you and I may count ourselves among those few who were up on the Brent Barry thing, while others just thought he was a plug-in, on-demand performer. But, what real athlete performs on-demand, off the bench on a second's notice?
For some reason, we seem intent on driving Brent Barry into the deep slime of NBA players who failed to perform a la Malik Rose. What's up with this ?
Why aren't we getting the very best out of our very best players? Geez! I don't know! Can't figure it out! It eludes me!
BS - big time!
Allie, no one wants to cut Barry any slack because his job requires him to be on an island all alone under tremendous pressure and the spotlight is going to be on him.
Texbum mentioned how he couldn't believe all the fuss over a bench player...but it's this role that always seems to decide how our season goes...after these playoffs Barry will either be an all time Spurs hero or an all time Goat...there will be no inbetween. Right or wrong...that's the way it is for this role in SA it seems.
I think most fans saw how Hedo got babied all year last year and in the long run the Spurs weren't doing Hedo any favors...I think everyone wants to avoid a repeat of that and so they don't want to see Barry get cut any slack...a lot of Spursfans have burned fingers
Whatever you want to say about how Barry has or hasn't been handled, one fact is unalienable: he misses wide open shots.
A veteran shooter with any balls should at least be able to do that, no matter what else has been going on. c.f., Steve Kerr.
i am tired of people making excuses for barry
who cares if he had to endure the wrath of pop early in the season and may not have been coddled into the spurs system properly. barry is not an infant. hes a professional basketball player that is expected to perform.
I think the debate as to whether pressure is affecting him is valid, but its not external pressure that affects him. All season long Barry, as well as other Spurs, has indicated that his shooting funk is primarily a mental block. He is not playing with any kind of confidence and since the game is 90% mental, his at ude is seriously impeding his game.
Players (especially shooters) that have succeeded in the Spurs system are those that have an inner-pride and confidence that can withstand Pop's abrasive nature. C.f. Jax, SKerr, Manu, Parker, and D. Brown (in last years LA series).
Spurs players that have choked or disappared have always had talent, but not enough balls to say, "I dont care wtf is happening at the moment... I know I'm a good player. Pop, I'm going to get mine and stick it in his ass." Cf. Barry, Hedo, Daniels.
If players expect any kind of special treatment from Pop, some sort of confidence booster like a Dad watching his son's ty CYO performance, they are looking in the wrong place. Barry is an adult that is expected to rely on his veteran shooting record and experience to support his confidence no matter what he's shooting at the moment. If he cant dig deep and pull himself out, then he's playing for the wrong team because he wont ever get it from the Spurs coaching staff.
Are you kidding me? Is this Walton Buys Me Off?....Worst thing you have ever written on this site. Gary Payton never led that "powerhouse" Oregon State to either as well...Or did you have to go look that up to?
"He just needs to develop short term amnesia"
Sun is shining, sunny all day, 80F in San Antonio, my bamboo, palms, bananas are all loving it, LIFE SUCKS!! Somebody please tell me what I saw last night was a bad dream!
Just tried to escape reality, watched Men In Black on cable. THOSE MIB's WON!!
What Barry needs is for Tommy Lee Jones to flash him with a Neuralizer.
Come on, Brent, you've been playing this game well for 20 years. How TF can you forget how?
How TF can ALL of the Spurs forget how to play basketall at even the NBDL level?
When will Barry begin starting?
As soon as the Austin team starts their season.When will Barry begin starting?
The Spurs were 3-1 vs LA in the regular season that year.
But, injuries again cost the Spurs that year in the playoffs.
Barry's lack of shooting touch baffles all of us. I can't remember any shooter with Barry's credentials going through such a terrible season long slump.
I know he's looking at film and practicing hard. Has anyone checked his vision? Changes in eyesight can be quick sometimes and hard to self-diagnose.
It's simply hard to believe that it's his psyche that is the culprit for all these months.
Look, man, Whottt. You're so grasping for straws here. Everyone can see it, but you.
although barrys in a slump right now, most of us can see hes just feeling all the pressure.
but if he's already cracking up on something like this.. how much more pressure would there be in the playoffs?
cant believe barrys turnin into another hedo
boy.. we really shouldnt have let jackson go.
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