Who was the last 2nd rounder to make the rotation in his rookie season?
Luis Scola?
If you mean who was the last 2nd rounder to make the rotation in his rookie season for the Spurs, then I believe it would be Ginobili. This actually supports the reason for my original premise in this thread. That premise is:
...and a follow-up post
Just don't expect immediate results unless you can get real fortunate i.e. Big Baby Davis or like last season's 37th pick, Luc Mbah a Moute.
Last edited by Solid D; 05-15-2009 at 05:47 PM.
But what if that 2nd rounder was available in a year instead of three?
If the Spurs could control the free market negotiations with the player in a year, when he is free to sign with the Spurs...or someone else in Europe or Asia...then sure, draft that guy at #37. Omri Casspi is a common name bandied about. I'm not sure if he is a 1st-year rotation guy.
The trouble is controlling the negotiations process and enticing the player to play in the best pro league in the world versus signing a lucrative long-term deal playing under the international rules and dimensions they are most comfortable with.
Last edited by Solid D; 05-15-2009 at 06:04 PM.
I've posted the workout list in the first post. I will update it when I get new workouts info.
I like where you're going with this! Just ONE question....why do you have Hairston at the point? I thought he plays SG.
Six Teams Will Attend Rockets' Draft Workout
May 17, 2009 3:55 PM EST
The Blazers, Celtics, Grizzles, Heat, Spurs and Timberwolves are among teams attending a draft workout held by the Rockets this weekend.
The NBA ins uted a new rule recently that allows teams to attend workouts hosted by other clubs as long as the costs are shared.
The workout in Houston will include about 40 players, predominantly college seniors.
"It's marginal guys, second-round guys that may be drafted," said an NBA source about the workout. "It's a way to save money and utilize the rule that allows other teams to come."
http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_ar...draft_workout/
When Mason is playing point for the Spurs, anything can happen.
a report from the Raptors workout from last week.
http://www.hooplife.ca/raptorshq/vie...cle.php?id=701
I wonder about this point: the only pick the Raptors own this draft is the #9. but all this players (except Williams) are projected late 1st or 2nd rounders and #9 would likely be to high for Williams either. I guess we will see some trade down moves from Colangelo.There was no Robert Dozier, whose flight out of Carolina was cancelled, but the group included Australian big-man Joe Ingles, Temple guard Dionte Christmas, Michigan defensive stopper Jevohn Shepherd, Durham College attendee Anthony Batchelor, North Carolina alum Danny Green and the center piece of the workout, Louisville uber-athlete Terrence Williams.
http://www.tsn.ca/nba/story/?id=279147
The Raptors GM hasn't been shy about making moves on draft day, and could do the same this year.
"After the obvious top four or five picks, it's pretty wide open so a couple of our targeted players might even be on the board later in the round," Colangelo said. "Thus we might consider obtaining another pick if one becomes available."
hmm. the Wolves would make a pretty logical partner for such a move.
Raptors deal #9 for #18 plus #28 plus something else (2nd rounders? future picks).
why the Wolves would do it? this draft may be weak overall, but it seems as if there will be some decent guard quality in the lottery. no stars, but potential starter guys. and that's the area where the Wolves do need help.
the#9 pick will be good enough for a player out of the Jennings, Lawson, Flynn, Evans, Henderson, Curry, DeRozan group and each of those would make sense for the Wolves.
Well, Colangelo is more saying that they will keep the #9 and try to get another pick.
I've heard for months that this draft sucks. So I guess a lot of teams could trade their mid to late first round pick for future pick and/or cash.
It's also true for Spurs. If they really like someone who will be picked before #37, moving up should be less difficult than in previous years.
true, there will be some picks on the market, just for cash.
this draft for sure isn't the most attractive, but I still don't buy the whole crap class talks, just because of the lack of obvious star power.
there will be some useful role players, as every year and some hidden gems. it looks a bit like 2001. (not a bad year in the Spurs draft history)
so Clippers get #1 and sure fire will pick Griffin.
even if there are some reports, they might still think about Rubio. forget it, Griffin will fit great alongside Gordon and Al Thornton.
but I wonder about Rubio. he knows he will very likely go to Memphis and I do wonder if this makes him think about withdrawing. ok, they have Gasol, but the way they treated JCN was quite a story in Spain and they are a pathetic franchise overall. horrible FO, a coach, who didn't win anything in his coaching career, they already have a dominat youn player in the back court, a small market and a city that doesn't exactly shine when you are a kid from Barcelona.
(for those who have never been to Barcelona: this city is so great, absolutely my favourite city in Europe. if you leave this place, I'm sure you don't want to end up in Memphis.)
Lee mard has worked out for the Spurs. and I already thought they didn't invite a single big.
http://www.ksl.com/?nid=498&sid=6538962
mard was listed as a late first- to mid-second round pick for much of the college season, and he still has his supporters who see his value remaining in that range. He has already had some NBA workouts ( mard was in San Antonio to display his talents for Spurs' brass this past weekend), but it may not be until his workout tour has concluded that we get a better idea of his true draft prospects.
Leo Lyons has worked out for Spurs but among the 14 players known to have worked out for Spurs, only 1 is a big.
mard and "big" in one sentence was more thought as irony.
http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Jon...up-May-20-3224
A number of teams are already reportedly sending out feelers indicating that they would like to acquire a pick in the late first round—including the San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets and Toronto Raptors. A few teams that are rumored to be looking to trade or sell their picks are the Oklahoma City Thunder (#25), Minnesota Timberwolves (#28) and New Orleans Hornets (#21).
Interesting. We can't know the credibility of this information, but I'd be very surprised if the Spurs move into the late first round territory. First of all they'd be forced to add guaranteed salary ( unless they draft an internation player there, but who? ) and then judging by the players they've invited to workouts it'd be difficult to say whether any of them could be a viable option there. Picks 15-30 seem pretty blurry.
Bruno, if we assume the Spurs are looking for a late first round pick, who do yuou think they might possibly be interested in? My guess would be some international player, Claver or Casspi, who would not be signed immediately.
Claver and Casspi seems to be good bets for Spurs late first target. We will see if they stay in this draft or pull out from the draft.
I would be quite surprised if Spurs move up in the first to draft a guard while they have Parker, Ginobili, Hill and Mason. Their target could be a college SF or PF like Sam Young or Gani Lawal.
Seems logical, but it is unlikely Claver or Casspi to be picked in the late first round because of their buyout issues. My guess would be that teams who target them should be looking for early 2nd round picks, rather than late 1st round ones, that's why I was surprised to read this information. To me the Spurs are much more likely to trade picks 37 and 51 for pick 33 ( just an example ) if they are targeting international payers.
If you don't have a buyout issue, a late first round pick contract and its guaranteed money isn't that bad.
IIRC, Casspi wanted to have a first round promise to stay in the draft last year.
I guess he has a small buyout and would be fine with a late first round pick contract.
Claver should pull out of the draft. He has been injured most of the year and his draft stock should be significantly higher in 2010 if he stays healthy.
Last edited by Bruno; 05-21-2009 at 06:24 AM.
They sould not take Rubio. He will be a bust. Take the center out of UConn.
They can use some size and defensive presence.
If true then I would hope the Spurs are looking at a sf/pf out of college intead of another international player that might not come this year or next.
Greivis Vasquez has worked pout for the Spurs. another combo guard. I can't help, but so many guards (most known for their offense and 3pt shooting) makes me think they focus on players, who could take the Mason role. Vasquez, Calathes, Christmas, Taylor. maybe the Spurs already look for a successor for Mason for 2010, or even a replacement? (mason as trade bait this summer?) this names all look as if they are seen as good fit alongside Hill.
(if they focus on players with such a profile, they would also have their eyes on De Colo and for sure on Sergio Llull)
http://washingtontimes.com/weblogs/d...letes-workout/
That last item was Vasquez's primary talking point throughout his chat with reporters, to the tune of probably eight or nine mentions (I'll transcribe the whole thing later). He will be at the pre-draft camp in Chicago next week, and also has a workout scheduled with Minnesota (he previously worked out for Cleveland and San Antonio).
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