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    I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?



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    SAN ANTONIO - Now I'm finally on vacation, just like the rest of my team was throughout the first round of the playoffs. My Super Manu foot will need another 3 or 4 weeks to heal, and they'll re-evaluate it then. In the meantime I'm stuck cycling, swimming, lifting weights and chillin' with the hotties on the beach. Borrring!

    As for the series, to be SuperMan-u, and have to watch this series from the sidelines was very tough. The truth is that Dallas was the better team throughout the entire series and deserved to win. We miss our shots and they hit theirs...scoreboard fellas, usually the team that scores more wins. After being down 1-3 in the series, everyone not named Tim or Tony mailed it in. Can you blame them? We were doomed from the start...you have seen our roster haven't you? Dallas improved every game and we countered with Michael Finley and Matt Bonner...good god. And thanks for stepping up in my absence, Money...thanks.

    As for my feelings, frankly I'm pissed! Put me out there with my homies and I can make any team look good. The only way to stop me is to not play me. I know this, the league knows this. Everyone who's ever fondled a basketball late at night knows this.

    This was not a loss like those in the past to the Lakers. We lost to the Mavs!!! The Mavs!!! The fvckin' Mavs!!! Pathetic. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because they're always pumped up in the media and Kobe is Kobe, but beating Dallas should be like beating up that re ed kid who lives down the street. It should be easy and fun. Fortunately for us, the audience didn't go postal and start rioting like a bunch of stupid soccer fans at the end of that debacle. Soccer fans are re ed, just like little Mikey who lives four doors down.

    I do not know what will happen next year. Of course we traded away our first round pick, don't we always?! So there's no help coming in the draft. I do not believe that altering the structure of the team will happen because the FO won't spend any money. We weren't healthy, and so we'll probably stick with that excuse for our early playoff exit. Why not...it worked last year! My guess, knowing our front office, is that we can all prepare for more Finlinator in '09-'10 people, you know it's coming!! But you know, we've been the toast of the league for 12 years. Maybe LA, Boston and Cleveland are better now...but you didn't hear that from me.

    I think that the Spurs organization will continue to use and abuse the three of us (Tony and Tim). Until Duncan retires this organization will milk every last ounce of worth right out of us without any real help. However, I can only hope and pray (I guess not pray, actually) that there will be changes in the role-players because, as you may have noticed, our role players suck ass.

    I would not say that this was a bad year for me, , if nothing else I'm $8,000,000 richer, so every day is a good day.

    But, in case you didn't catch it when I said it before, I spent a lot of time in the pool, lifting weights, on the bike, and hanging on the beach with the hotties. But next year, when I'm healthy, look out es! I believe I can even carry this bunch of geriatrics to the le if that's what I'm stuck with, because, I am, SuperMan-u!

    Look for me on Facebook, and I'll Twitter about how I'm sipping champagne on some private beach somewhere. Then I'll return to Argentina where I guess I'll honor my commitments to various charities...blah...blah...blah. It's good to be a gangsta!


    I wouldn’t say it was a bad year for me;


    anyway, get well manu, we'll need you next year, especially int the PO.

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    I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?



    By Manu Ginóbili
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    SAN ANTONIO - Now I'm finally on vacation, just like the rest of my team was throughout the first round of the playoffs. My Super Manu foot will need another 3 or 4 weeks to heal, and they'll re-evaluate it then. In the meantime I'm stuck cycling, swimming, lifting weights and chillin' with the hotties on the beach. Borrring!

    As for the series, to be SuperMan-u, and have to watch this series from the sidelines was very tough. The truth is that Dallas was the better team throughout the entire series and deserved to win. We miss our shots and they hit theirs...scoreboard fellas, usually the team that scores more wins. After being down 1-3 in the series, everyone not named Tim or Tony mailed it in. Can you blame them? We were doomed from the start...you have seen our roster haven't you? Dallas improved every game and we countered with Michael Finley and Matt Bonner...good god. And thanks for stepping up in my absence, Money...thanks.

    As for my feelings, frankly I'm pissed! Put me out there with my homies and I can make any team look good. The only way to stop me is to not play me. I know this, the league knows this. Everyone who's ever fondled a basketball late at night knows this.

    This was not a loss like those in the past to the Lakers. We lost to the Mavs!!! The Mavs!!! The fvckin' Mavs!!! Pathetic. Here people always want to beat the Lakers because they're always pumped up in the media and Kobe is Kobe, but beating Dallas should be like beating up that re ed kid who lives down the street. It should be easy and fun. Fortunately for us, the audience didn't go postal and start rioting like a bunch of stupid soccer fans at the end of that debacle. Soccer fans are re ed, just like little Mikey who lives four doors down.

    I do not know what will happen next year. Of course we traded away our first round pick, don't we always?! So there's no help coming in the draft. I do not believe that altering the structure of the team will happen because the FO won't spend any money. We weren't healthy, and so we'll probably stick with that excuse for our early playoff exit. Why not...it worked last year! My guess, knowing our front office, is that we can all prepare for more Finlinator in '09-'10 people, you know it's coming!! But you know, we've been the toast of the league for 12 years. Maybe LA, Boston and Cleveland are better now...but you didn't hear that from me.

    I think that the Spurs organization will continue to use and abuse the three of us (Tony and Tim). Until Duncan retires this organization will milk every last ounce of worth right out of us without any real help. However, I can only hope and pray (I guess not pray, actually) that there will be changes in the role-players because, as you may have noticed, our role players suck ass.

    I would not say that this was a bad year for me, , if nothing else I'm $8,000,000 richer, so every day is a good day.

    But, in case you didn't catch it when I said it before, I spent a lot of time in the pool, lifting weights, on the bike, and hanging on the beach with the hotties. But next year, when I'm healthy, look out es! I believe I can even carry this bunch of geriatrics to the le if that's what I'm stuck with, because, I am, SuperMan-u!

    Look for me on Facebook, and I'll Twitter about how I'm sipping champagne on some private beach somewhere. Then I'll return to Argentina where I guess I'll honor my commitments to various charities...blah...blah...blah. It's good to be a gangsta!

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    Great job, urunobili. Nice work all season. I'm sure translating isn't the funnest thing to do.

    Sounds like Manu is in a good frame of mind.

    I know its being talked everywhere already that the Spurs should refurbish, but I don’t think a lot will change. It has been like 12 years being right on top and the franchise is really cautious; but if we see the growth of the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland truth is we are not that close.
    Is he saying that if the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland get better that the Spurs won't be close to that level without some help?

    That's difficult to argue with.

    I wouldn’t say it was a bad year for me; indeed it was very different on the physical and mental side. On the game not so much, because while I was active, I played on my level and I also had good numbers maybe with even less minutes.
    Kinda weird thing to say but I do agree that his stats were better than people are giving him credit for. The only thing that wasn't as good as ever was his three-point shooting. Get that back to a normal level and he would have been right on pace with his 2008 regular season.

    Can't wait to see Manu play basketball again

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    how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

    when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

    i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

    when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

    maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

    I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating.

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    As for my feelings, I was pretty angry, be removed without playing is very ugly. Would have preferred to be inside, working with my colleagues. It was very sad that you feel powerless. I was wrong, it was somewhat difficult to digest. At times I felt indebted to. Is that, after so many years in the franchise and playing together are forming a big commitment.

    Bingo.

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    Allen is a pure jump shooter that doesn't frequently attack the basket. Most of his shots are off screens.

    Manu is more of a slasher. He is expends so much energy when he is out on the court, diving for a lose ball; attacking the basket.

    Totally 2 different kinds of players.
    i talked about that in my post but that's mainly false. Allen has been seen all his career as a jump shooter because he has a great and very pure shot. but he can attack the rim almost as well as any slashers. he's and has always been very athletic:


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    i talked about that in my post but that's mainly false. Allen has been seen all his career as a jump shooter because he has a great and very pure shot. but he can attack the rim almost as well as any slashers. he's and has always been very athletic:
    Manu used to play well over 30 mpg before coming to the NBA. And he used to attack the basket a lot more than he does now. But once you get on a rhythm of 25 mpg, any increase will cause fatigue. I think as we see him go to his jump shot more (and this is inevitable), he will be able to play more also.
    And BTW, Manu does average almost 31 mpg in the playoffs, which pretty much tells you this is more of a coaching decision than anything else.
    The big difference with Ray Allen is that Allen's shot is his primary weapon, and driving is really secondary. Manu has improved his shot considerably in the last couple of years, but his shot was (and arguable still isn't) as good as Allen. So driving is necessarily his weapon of choice.

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    how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

    when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

    i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

    when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

    maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

    I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating.
    That’s a good question, I’m with the guys stating they have different games…. If we follow your logic…. how come Tony being 26 years old gets dead tire on the fourth quarter of almost every game ???........ coz the guy drives it to the hole constantly the whole ing game.

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    how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

    when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

    i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

    when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

    maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

    I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating.

    I've read reports on Ray and the guy has always treated his body like a temple. He's never drank or been involved with drugs and works extremely hard (not saying manu doesn't do any of that). But I can see how he can sustain tough games like that with his work ethic. And I agree with some people about their playing styles, I mean ray is one of the all-time great pure shooters...though I think some aren't giving him credit for his ability to take it to the rim, because he can do that effectively even at his age. But like another poster said, players have to respect his shot first so it's easier to get to the rim-where with manu it's the other way around, drive first. Both great players, Ray being a level higher IMO when looking at their careers.
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    Great job, urunobili. Nice work all season. I'm sure translating isn't the funnest thing to do.
    Thank YOU timvp... I like doing it since it makes me feel that i can contribute someway to ST I think I found what my role on the team is

    Sounds like Manu is in a good frame of mind.

    Is he saying that if the Lakers, Boston and Cleveland get better that the Spurs won't be close to that level without some help?

    That's difficult to argue with.
    I think he was more saying that with the way the Spurs are currently set, they are not able to compete with them (FTL, Cleva and Punktics) since they got better already... from there the statement that we NEED to do something to get to their level

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    Originally Posted by Ed Helicopter Jones
    I'll give it a shot, not a problem. Does it matter that I don't speak Portugese?
    hahahhaa...I prefer this translation - thanks!

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    how can Ray allen, who is 34 years old, can play 59 very solid minutes in a PO game, after a season where he played 79 games at 36+ mpg, after a long and intense 14 years carreer where he played 942 games at more than 37 mpg ?

    when manu, 2 years younger, having played only 7 NBA years (with many more in europe and international games though), averaging only 27 + mpg in his NBA career, seems alwayd having fatigue issues ?

    i'm not even talking about injuries. let's say it's just bad luck.

    when i see that Rivers doesn't have to worry about Allen's minutes, and there could be dozens of others examples through the NBA, when we're worrying about manu's playing time and health for years now, i just find it amazing that some people still won't admit manu is a very very fragile player.

    maybe Allen is more a jump shooter but he's still a very athletic player able to drive.

    I'm just so sad that we can't see on a consistent basis the unbelievable player that is manu at full strenght. frustrating.
    I seem to remember Ray Allen having a lot of injury problems in Milwaukee with his ankles and missing lots of games in Milwaukee and even some in Seattle.

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    I've read reports on Ray and the guy has always treated his body like a temple. He's never drank or been involved with drugs and works extremely hard (not saying manu doesn't do any of that). But I can see how he can sustain tough games like that with his work ethic. And I agree with some people about their playing styles, I mean ray is one of the all-time great pure shooters...though I think some aren't giving him credit for his ability to take it to the rim, because he can do that effectively even at his age. But like another poster said, players have to respect his shot first so it's easier to get to the rim-where with manu it's the other way around, drive first. Both great players, Ray being a level higher IMO when looking at their careers.
    A level ing higher? You don't remember Manu destroying him in the 2005 playoffs?

    If you are talking about stats, sure Ray Allen is higher, but a level higher than Manu as a player I disagree completely. Ray Allen choked it up almost the entire first 3 rounds of the playoffs last season and since Boston wasn't eliminated he finally got it going in the finals.

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    That’s a good question, I’m with the guys stating they have different games…. If we follow your logic…. how come Tony being 26 years old gets dead tire on the fourth quarter of almost every game ???........ coz the guy drives it to the hole constantly the whole ing game.
    i don't remember tony being tired in games unless he was asked to carry the whole offense for 40+ minutes. Indeed, last time i checked, he scored as well if not more in the 4rd QT. manu is averaging 27 mpg in his whole career.

    and if tony isn't able to carry his whole team's offense through 45 minutes as Wade can do, it's just because he's less athletic, that's all.


    I seem to remember Ray Allen having a lot of injury problems in Milwaukee with his ankles and missing lots of games in Milwaukee and even some in Seattle.

    that's why i'm not talking about injuries. you never know what is the part of bad luck here.
    i was talking about minutes. since manu came, he has always been preserved for playing too much, like if Pop knew he was fragile. you don't see it with others players at the same age or even older.

    i really hope Pop could be able to manage manu's and tim's minutes without risking a PO berth and tiring too much tony or others player. i just don't think it will be possible in the so compe ive W-Conference.

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    nice job urunobili, sorry I havent helped out but having a kid takes a lot of time!

    i used to like ray allen a lot when he was a slasher, but injuries came, and a jump shooter he became. manu hasn't yet but, after this year, will face the same problem- either continue slashing and burn out fast, or become a jump shooter and play another 4-5 years. personally, I rather 1-2 years of excellence (to go out with TD) vs 4-5 of contributing, but it's his ankles and his career.

    in any case, more than fragile, manu has low stamina. but you cant compare his herky jerky all out style to ray allen's silky smooth effortless style, totally different players.


    and if tony isn't able to carry his whole team's offense through 45 minutes as Wade can do, it's just because he's less athletic, that's all.
    athleticism and stamina are different things. and it's funny you chose wade as an example, because wade has missed a lot of games from injury in his short career.


    that's why i'm not talking about injuries. you never know what is the part of bad luck here.
    i was talking about minutes. since manu came, he has always been preserved for playing too much, like if Pop knew he was fragile. you don't see it with others players at the same age or even older.

    i really hope Pop could be able to manage manu's and tim's minutes without risking a PO berth and tiring too much tony or others player. i just don't think it will be possible in the so compe ive W-Conference.
    manu has been preserved for stamina, not injuries. fragility has nothing to do with it. if manu were fragile, he would have had several injuries over the course of his career. ray allen has played more minutes, but he's also missed more games to injury in his career, both overall and per year. aside from this year, what injuries has manu had? bruises are not injuries.

    and for the bolded part, let me remind you.. pop had to ride manu in 07-08 because of TP's heel problems, maybe manu wouldnt have got injured if he didnt have to make up for TP. of course i dont believe that, but its obvious that is the kind of thing you are trying to imply

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    at Chopper's translation.

    I liked it better than Manu's original article. hahaha.

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    i don't remember tony being tired in games unless he was asked to carry the whole offense for 40+ minutes. Indeed, last time i checked, he scored as well if not more in the 4rd QT. manu is averaging 27 mpg in his whole career.

    and if tony isn't able to carry his whole team's offense through 45 minutes as Wade can do, it's just because he's less athletic, that's all.
    Manu has carried the Spurs without TD and TP playing well over 40 minutes in a handful of games. If you didn't know that you must be a fairly new Spurs fan. That said, I don't think it's beneficial to the team when a player has to do that, specially when your other two stars are available.

    If the coach deems that Manu has to play 25 mpg, it's most likely a matter of stamina, or simply because we have pretty much won/lost the game, and he doesn't want unnecessary wear and tear.

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    at Chopper's translation.

    I liked it better than Manu's original article. hahaha.


    I want a Chopper translation everytime Manu writes an article. It's the truth!

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    I second that!

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